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if Cam fails how long will u bandwagoners take to leave?


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#37 malik

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:39 AM

To be fair, we threw Jimmy under the bus because we have seen him play. And he kinda sucks.

Just saying.

yea everyone was hyped for clausen at first.

It was pretty unanimous that the whole Fan Base wanted him.

#38 Mr ocho nueve

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:39 AM

To be fair, we threw Jimmy under the bus because we have seen him play. And he kinda sucks.

#justsaying


I understand your point of view, but 1 season doesn't define a players skills and value. It speaks volumes of the team we had on the field when NO qb from last year came close to even doing a decent job.

#39 Jangler

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:41 AM

yea everyone was hyped for clausen at first.

It was pretty unanimous that the whole Fan Base wanted him.


I'm a Notre Dame fan, some knew what to expect...just wasn't expecting it to be so bad.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:42 AM

my bad, then. fwiw, i'm an Auburn fan that likes the NFL but hasn't had a favorite team since Earl Campbell and Bum Phillips left Houston back in the early 80s. i like to follow Auburn players that play in the NFL but i'll try to keep the nut hugging to a minimum.

forum got hacked and accounts deleted. for a while i thought i got banned and didn't even re-register.



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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:45 AM

yea everyone was hyped for clausen at first.

It was pretty unanimous that the whole Fan Base wanted him.


If there is one thing I learned from Jimmy Clausen it is that midget QBs can't throw the football submarine style and be effective.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:47 AM

I understand your point of view, but 1 season doesn't define a players skills and value. It speaks volumes of the team we had on the field when NO qb from last year came close to even doing a decent job.


Yet funny that we shelled out all of that money to retain many of the key contributors to such a failed season. The team wasn't bad. The offense was, because we didn't have a QB and the coaching sucked.

When Matt Moore played, we scored more points - showing he was a better QB. When Clausen played, possessions died with throws out of bounds, checkdowns for 2 yards on 3rd and 15, or sacks, or when he was feeling really daring - pick sixes.

I understand wanting to give a guy a chance... but in all of my life watching football, and in all of my years of being a Panthers fan since we got a team, I have never seen a QB play so bad on a consistent basis. I have no idea where all of the support for him is coming from - he showed us NOTHING.

At least Randy Fasani could run and get a few yards despite not being able to pass... Jimmy was horrible. I was hoping he would come back improved and actually compete for the job, but it doesn't sound like a whole lot has changed from all the guys that cover our team and from many of the huddlers who have attended camp so far.

I agree that he shouldn't be booed and I think part of his problem now is that mentally he's trashed... Having your fans boo you at practice doesn't help that. But, unless he came in showing marked difference in his performance this year compared to last year, he shouldn't take any snaps this year.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:47 AM

If there is one thing I learned from Jimmy Clausen it is that midget QBs can't throw the football submarine style and be effective.

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Doug Flutie was obviously the acception to that rule!

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:48 AM

if Malik leaves how long will it take anyone to notice?

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:49 AM

Doug Flutie was obviously the acception to that rule!


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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:52 AM

In Clausen's defense, Flutie apparently didn't look like an NFL QB when he first got in the league either (although I was too young to have known anything about it at the time)... He wasn't good till he came back from the CFL.

Secondly, what doesn't work in Clausen's favor in this comparison, Flutie was extremely mobile and could scramble his ass off.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:53 AM

When Cam succeeds how long will it take for all the Panthers to actually be an elite franchise?

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:54 AM

Yet funny that we shelled out all of that money to retain many of the key contributors to such a failed season. The team wasn't bad. The offense was, because we didn't have a QB and the coaching sucked.

When Matt Moore played, we scored more points - showing he was a better QB. When Clausen played, possessions died with throws out of bounds, checkdowns for 2 yards on 3rd and 15, or sacks, or when he was feeling really daring - pick sixes.

I understand wanting to give a guy a chance... but in all of my life watching football, and in all of my years of being a Panthers fan since we got a team, I have never seen a QB play so bad on a consistent basis. I have no idea where all of the support for him is coming from - he showed us NOTHING.

At least Randy Fasani could run and get a few yards despite not being able to pass... Jimmy was horrible. I was hoping he would come back improved and actually compete for the job, but it doesn't sound like a whole lot has changed from all the guys that cover our team and from many of the huddlers who have attended camp so far.

I agree that he shouldn't be booed and I think part of his problem now is that mentally he's trashed... Having your fans boo you at practice doesn't help that. But, unless he came in showing marked difference in his performance this year compared to last year, he shouldn't take any snaps this year.


I have to disagree with you here, two of those pick sixes were check down passes to the TE and FB.

Personally I think those that still support Clausen, didn't watch all 16 games like some of use diehard fans did.

Edited by Tarheels23, 03 August 2011 - 12:56 AM.