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Cam Newton is the real deal

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I think his point is people cheerleading Cam's struggles because they are chomping at the bit to say I told you so.

Oh, well, that's pretty silly. But I could see why they would be more sensitive to Cam's failures and would point them out more then major supports of Cam, who would overlook one or two of his faults.

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Cam Newton is the real deal

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Is anyone else concerned about Cam's accuracy? When has a QB ever entered the NFL with below average accuracy for a QB at the NFL level and turned into a dynamic passer? Accuracy is something that shouldn't be a question for a #1 draft pick. I've seen posts comparing him to Vick and Steve Young, but he reminds me much more of a The Golden Calf of Bristol or VY. Vick and Young were/are accurate passers with great running ability. I see Cam/VY/The Golden Calf of Bristol as great runners with below avg accuracy.

I believe Cam can extend drives and help win games because of his running ability, but to take the Panthers to the level we want to be, I'm doubtful. Unless you have an unbelievable defense, winning the Super Bowl requires a really good passing game in the modern day NFL. Can accuracy be developed that much at this point? It seems to me most QBs either have it by the time they reach the NFL or they never do. I see Cam having a VY type record as a starting QB which is good, but I'd be suprised to see him turn into an elite passer.

Negatives... Plays in the spread offense, taking the bulk of his snaps from the shotgun... Tends to side-arm his passes going deep...Lacks accuracy and touch on his long throws... Seems more comfortable in the short/intermediate passing attack...Does not possess the ideal height you look for in a pro passer, though his ability to scan the field helps him compensate in this area...Will improvise and run when the passing lanes are clogged, but tends to run through defenders rather than trying to avoid them to prevent unnecessary punishment.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2001/profile/drew_brees.html

That was the scouting report on Drew Bress going into the 2001 draft. Your argument is invalid.

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I really wish people would research their sh*t , before looking like a stupid f*ck.

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This is camp...Cam will have shining moments that send a message to Jimmy to get with it or this rookie will be the starter. Jimmy, if he finds motivation, will have his shining moments during camp that will show Cam the starting job is not a gift and needs to be earned with progress and confidence, eventually experience that will be valuable to both guys.

Bottom line - two QB's who will be better because of it.

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That might be the most uneducated, unintelligent and completely wrong post yet. Thanks for playing and go brush up on your football history!

why...please enlighten me. Vick's accuracy wasn't great at the start of his NFL career, but I admitted I was wrong there. What else is wrong with this post. I'm asking a question. I'm aware QBs can marginally improve accuracy in the NFL from what they had before. I think Cam needs more that marginal improvement as a passer. I just have serious doubts about Cam's ability to turn into a NFL championship caliber QB (which is what you expect when you draft a QB with the 1st overall pick). An important job of a QB is to throw the ball accurately in the right window at the right time, I have serious questions about whether or not Cam can develop enough to be that type of a QB on a consistent enough basis to be considered a great passer. At the NFL level, he's freakish athletic ability will be diminished somewhat compared to college and he'll have to rely on his accuracy in much tighter windows. Not to mention the offense he ran in college was closer to a high school playbook than NFL. For those dogging my post and saying Cam's accuracy has never been in question, I don't know what to say except we have a very different opinion of him. I see a slightly better Vince Young....that's not the worst thing in the world.

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http://www.footballsfuture.com/2001/profile/drew_brees.html

That was the scouting report on Drew Bress going into the 2001 draft. Your argument is invalid.

No, it isn't. Drew Brees was 10 times the passer Cam was in college. Drew was highly accurate with much less surrounding talent at Purdue. Maybe he had a LITTLE trouble back then with the deep ball only...far cry from the accuracy and touch issues I'm talking about with Cam. If you don't see it then we simply disagree, no big deal.

Please don't post college stats either, if stats are all that matters then the NFL would be overrun with stud Qbs from the WAC conference.

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why...please enlighten me. Vick's accuracy wasn't great at the start of his NFL career, but I admitted I was wrong there. What else is wrong with this post. I'm asking a question. I'm aware QBs can marginally improve accuracy in the NFL from what they had before. I think Cam needs more that marginal improvement as a passer. I just have serious doubts about Cam's ability to turn into a NFL championship caliber QB (which is what you expect when you draft a QB with the 1st overall pick). An important job of a QB is to throw the ball accurately in the right window at the right time, I have serious questions about whether or not Cam can develop enough to be that type of a QB on a consistent enough basis to be considered a great passer. At the NFL level, he's freakish athletic ability will be diminished somewhat compared to college and he'll have to rely on his accuracy in much tighter windows. Not to mention the offense he ran in college was closer to a high school playbook than NFL. For those dogging my post and saying Cam's accuracy has never been in question, I don't know what to say except we have a very different opinion of him. I see a slightly better Vince Young....that's not the worst thing in the world.

Accuracy is something that can be improved upon and more than marginally. Drew Bress' accuracy was questioned coming out of college and he is now considered the most accurate passer in the NFL. It isn't like arm strength or height or speed or athleticism, which is pretty much the same no matter how much you work on it.

So, if we agree that it can be improved upon with hard work, I'm not worried about Cam at all. Everything you hear about him is about his natural abilities and work ethic. If something needs to be done to make him a better player, I think he will do it. He hasn't even played in a preseason game yet. He has a lot of time to improve his weaknesses, all of which are fixable.

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All I'm going to say on this topic is this...

When Cam over throws people, it's usually on the out routes, and He sails the ball like 5-10 feet over their heads... Those are impossible to pick off... The only time we'll be in trouble with his sailing of the ball will be in crossing routes over the middle. If ^He sails them there Safties will love him league wide!

Who knows how this guy turns out... We're all in this together and are hoping for the best case scenario... So let's stop arguing about all the what Ifs and just watch this poo play out. There is no way to predict his fate or anyone's off of one day at damn practice. All this arguing is getting way out of hand.

We're all on the same team here! The lockout is over! Can we please all start just debating instead of belittling people on this site?

Just sayin'...

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Two words for our 2 young QB's

Mechanics and Composure

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I see a slightly better Vince Young....that's not the worst thing in the world.

If Newton plays like Vince Young his rookie year and makes the probowl, I would be very pleased. The problem with Young has always been in his head not with his physical skills. Given Newton's drive, hard working attitude and level headedness, he has all the best parts of Young and none of the bad.

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