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#37 Peppers90 NC

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:59 PM

You mean the pressure that he wouldn't step up into and was constantly throwing off his back foot because? The pressure that made him look scared in the pocket causing countless errant throws?

Yeah, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal strong point for him.


you thought clausen performed better than Cam?

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:59 PM

Cam's stats fall drastically short of how he played. Both those incompletes in the end zones could (and probably would) have gone for interference calls in the regular season. There were also several drops as well.

Clausen was wildly ineffective for most of the game and benefitted greatly from the run game and a great catch by Olsen. Anderson looked better than Clausen.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:01 PM

How did Clausen look "great" in preseason? We did not score a single TD in preseason.


He was making some good throws. He looked like he had poise.

I am not debating the whole JC vs. CN thing. I am just saying that both QB's looked just "OK" last night. However, everyone is still trying to bash JC's play and make excuses for Cam's incompletions.


Then, uh, why'd you bring up Newton's 1-game preseason stats?

Neither played bad....but neither played great.


Actually... Jimmy looked like Jimmy from last year. Newton looked like a rookie who's had three weeks to train with his team. No, neither one of them looked great.

And I thought you weren't debating JC vs. CN. thing anyhow.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:01 PM

you thought clausen performed better than Cam?


They both played poorly.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:02 PM

:rolleyes:
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Truth.

Clausen scores, cam gets 2 field goals.

Clausen haters will hate him no matter what he does.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:03 PM

They both played poorly.


Newton did not play poorly.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:03 PM

Truth.

Clausen scores, cam gets 2 field goals.

Clausen haters will hate him no matter what he does.


Clausen also scored a TD for the Giants too.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:03 PM

Cam's stats fall drastically short of how he played. Both those incompletes in the end zones could (and probably would) have gone for interference calls in the regular season. There were also several drops as well.

Clausen was wildly ineffective for most of the game and benefitted greatly from the run game and a great catch by Olsen. Anderson looked better than Clausen.


Jimmy's ball to Olsen was better than Cam's ball to either Olsen or Armanti

Cam benefited greatly from the screen game.

Cam only had 1 drop (possibly two if you count the bad ball to Clowney)

Both were bad.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:04 PM

Newton did not play poorly.


Everything proves otherwise

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:05 PM

Well if The Jimmy made bad throws and the receivers had to adjust, then you can say the same for Cam. Olsen had to turn around for the 10 yard pass instead of catching in stride. Edwards had to come back for the 30+ yarder, and Olsen had to lay out for his other big catch.

What's the point of your post? To clearly downplay one when you can easily do the same for the other?

Both of them got help, why the crying? Isn't it the receivers job to adjust and make a play just as much as it is the QBs job to get a catchable ball to the receiver?

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:05 PM

He was making some good throws. He looked like he had poise.



Then, uh, why'd you bring up Newton's 1-game preseason stats?



Actually... Jimmy looked like Jimmy from last year. Newton looked like a rookie who's had three weeks to train with his team. No, neither one of them looked great.

And I thought you weren't debating JC vs. CN. thing anyhow.


I brought up Cam's stats to show how completely stupid all of you sound by trying to downplay the fact that Clausen had a night pretty equal to Cam's.

neither played great....but neither played bad.

There are a few that want to bash Cam no matter what (TRD). There are a few who want to bash Clausen no matter what (you).

I prefer to look at their performance objectively and say that both did some nice things during the game and both had their very shaky moments.

But, the Cam Homers who try and take an 8-19 game (44% completion...whichis terrible) and talk about how great he was. He was NOT great. He had flashes of great play and then looked like a rookie most of the time.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 04:08 PM

There are a few that want to bash Cam no matter what (TRD). There are a few who want to bash Clausen no matter what (you).


I gave both of them credit when they deserved it.

Cam on the drop by Armanti,

Clausen for using his eyes and pump fake to move the safety on the Olsen TD.

Other than that, neither deserved praise.