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#106 jtnc

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 11:31 AM

Other names are included more than Beason like Vilma, etc. All Beason did was sign an autograph. Vilma and other players took pictures with the guy

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 11:38 AM

Other names are included more than Beason like Vilma, etc. All Beason did was sign an autograph. Vilma and other players took pictures with the guy


Look I'm a huge Beason fan but if these allegations are true (they appear to be) then he committed his fair share of violations. Does that change my opinion of Beason? Definitely not, but there is no denying that he received a lot of improper benefits from Shapiro. Did it make him a better football player? Absolutely not, so I really don't care either way but he was a major player implicated in this report....

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 11:45 AM

Other names are included more than Beason like Vilma, etc. All Beason did was sign an autograph. Vilma and other players took pictures with the guy


he did more than sign an autograph.. he partied on his boat (drinks, most likely women as well) and accepted money..

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 11:58 AM

So an 18 year old can't follow rules? They arent FIVE! Stop treeting them like dummies, I feel its border line offensive. "They can't make decisions for themselves because they had such a hard life." BULL! Maybe I would feel different if they gave all the cash to their parents but the greedy f!@#$ers kept it!

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 12:06 PM

So an 18 year old can't follow rules? They arent FIVE! Stop treeting them like dummies, I feel its border line offensive. "They can't make decisions for themselves because they had such a hard life." BULL! Maybe I would feel different if they gave all the cash to their parents but the greedy f!@#$ers kept it!


you have conflicting views.. lol

funny how a kid whose 18 is 10X more likely to get a speeding ticket or into an accident than a 25 year old..

KIDS at that age are still immature as fug. they make bad decisions constantly, and it appears you agree with me.. ;)

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 12:12 PM

lol...suppose that is what I get for just throwing words at the computer. I just want to see the NCAA tured upside down and make schools police this stuff. Heck, hire a bunch of special forces guys if you have to.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 12:14 PM

People here forget how impressionable kids are at 18 and 19. I am sure $50k didn't just wind up on their front door step in a briefcase. Normally money is given to players through wealthy boosters that are successful businessmen. If you are 18 years old and an adult that is respected in the community and business world tells you it is okay to take the money, most kids think it is okay to take the money. I think it is easy to look at this from afar, but reality is a different story.

I know this Shapiro cat is in jail for fraud, but I am sure at the time folks around him didn't know he was a scumbag.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 12:25 PM

Beason's in the pros now and as long as no major LAWS were broken (not NCAA violations) I still have a favorable opinion of Beason. I'm sure every top 25 football school has NCAA violations if they were investigated throughly enough.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 12:47 PM

Debating the the integrity of college football programs is like debating which horse is healthiest at the glue factory.

I enjoy watching college football, but the idea that there is purity left in the game or whatever is absurd.

Just like anything else in life, when there is that much money involved in anything, corruption is not far behind.

My only beef with college football is that it has reached organized religion levels of hyprocrisy as far as the programs (and by extension the fans) throwing dirt on one another when they all are filthy.

Just admit that you want to win more than anything else and that you are willing to do anything to meet that end.

Just like in politics, it's only cheating if you get caught. And I'm not saying the NFL or pro leagues are better, but at least they don't have the pretense of being anything beyond paid-for entertainment.

But the idea to entangle a sports team with not only a university but by extension the quote-unquote "integrity" of a place of higher-learning is ridiculous. A college sports team has absolutely nothing to do with higher learning beyond bringing in alumni and booster dollars. Nothing.

Big business sports should be its own seperate entity. But universities will stay in bed with this hypocrisy b/c there is simply too much money to be made not to.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 12:49 PM

Here is the issue that Mike Golic brought up this morning.

It is wrong for this stuff to be allowed or ignored because all it takes is for one of these guys dishing out money to say "I'll give you $100k if you shave some points off the game."

Is that cool? Its probably already happened as well. Granted, these kids are already out of school so how do you punish them? So then you're left with punishing the school and thats what they need to fix is the punishments so that school have tighter control over what happens with these kids who are already getting FREE education.

On a side note - Does the NCAA have control over when a kid can leave to go do professional sports or is that up to the NFL/NBA/etc.?

Edited by smash_n_dash, 17 August 2011 - 12:52 PM.


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Posted 17 August 2011 - 12:55 PM

Debating the the integrity of college football programs is like debating which horse is healthiest at the glue factory.

I enjoy watching college football, but the idea that there is purity left in the game or whatever is absurd.

Just like anything else in life, when there is that much money involved in anything, corruption is not far behind.

My only beef with college football is that it has reached organized religion levels of hyprocrisy as far as the programs (and by extension the fans) throwing dirt on one another when they all are filthy.

Just admit that you want to win more than anything else and that you are willing to do anything to meet that end.

Just like in politics, it's only cheating if you get caught. And I'm not saying the NFL or pro leagues are better, but at least they don't have the pretense of being anything beyond paid-for entertainment.

But the idea to entangle a sports team with not only a university but by extension the quote-unquote "integrity" of a place of higher-learning is ridiculous. A college sports team has absolutely nothing to do with higher learning beyond bringing in alumni and booster dollars. Nothing.

Big business sports should be its own seperate entity. But universities will stay in bed with this hypocrisy b/c there is simply too much money to be made not to.


well said..

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 01:45 PM

I went to Davidson and heard rumors of some cash hand-shakes from alumni.

And we play as small time football as there is.

I think NCAA rule violations are very common.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 02:03 PM

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"Uncle Luke" sounds off on "Little Luke"


Nevin Shapiro wishes he could wear my shorts for one day. The New Jersey-born Napoleon dubbed himself "Little Luke" in a so-called investigative report by Yahoo! Sports claiming all sorts of corrupt poo Shapiro committed while he was a booster of the University of Miami athletics program.

The claims even include hooking up football players with prostitutes and buying them bottles at Mansion. That punk could never be me.

First of all, I have never been a UM booster. I have never given a dime to the school. I have and always will support the players and the program out of civic pride, but I never violated any NCAA rules when I was the team's biggest fan in the '80s. And I definitely would not have ever paid for a stripper to abort a baby allegedly fathered by a UM football player, like Shapiro claims he did.

You can't be me just by reading a Dan Le Batard article in the Miami Herald from 21 years ago alleging I paid players for hits on the field. The NCAA investigated those accusations and found no wrongdoing on my part. This notion that I was paying players is false. It never happened.

If Nevin really wanted people to see him as "Little Luke," he would have dedicated part of his life to helping kids in Miami's inner-city neighborhoods get a college education. He certainly never started a youth athletic program that has been around for more than 30 years helping underprivileged parents in Liberty City mold their children.

It has never been about money for me. It has always been about community service. That's what being Uncle Luke is really about.

Shapiro is nothing more than a jilted groupie who fuged over a lot people. He is an opportunistic schemer who now wants to play the role of jailhouse snitch. His word isn't worth squat, especially if Yahoo! paid him for the exclusive. Nevin is angry because he couldn't get former players to invest in his Ponzi scheme or come to his rescue when his criminal enterprise was exposed.

I always had a feeling Shapiro was a sketchy motherfuger. I could see right through him two minutes into our first conversation. During one of our meetings, he was trying to get me to be a part of his sports agency because he knew I work with all the kids in the inner city playing football. He also complained that the former players didn't want to invest in his food business after he had bought jerseys and memorabilia to support the program.

He was all about himself. Shapiro wanted to use me like he was using the UM players and other celebrity athletes he courted. I knew to stay away from him. So did Randy Shannon, who warned all of his assistants that if he caught them with Shapiro, he would fire them. Randy hated that beady-eyed defamer. Surprisingly, Shannon's name was conspicuously absent in Yahoo!'s breathtaking 11-month investigation.

The NCAA shouldn't even waste any gas money on this guy. But the investigators have to do their due diligence. In the meantime, every UM fan should send a letter to Shapiro's prison warden and insist he remain in the general population.


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Luther "Uncle Luke" Campbell is an original member of controversial rap group 2 Live Crew. He has been a record producer, rapper, promoter, etc in Miami since the early 80s.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 02:05 PM

I went to Davidson and heard rumors of some cash hand-shakes from alumni.

And we play as small time football as there is.

I think NCAA rule violations are very common.


It happens everywhere. I understand the need for rules, but there is no governing body NCAA included capable of reigning in the financial beast college football has become.

It's hard to know where to start. Big-time boosters in college football are the equivalent of the special interest groups and lobbyists in our political system. Both have gotten too powerful and too engrained in the system to easily eradicate.

Heck, I remember seeing Rodney White driving around UNC-Charlotte in a pimped out Expedition with rims when I was in school there. It does happen everywhere, and the more big-time the program, the more rampant it is.

Dead presidents do rule the world.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 02:09 PM

Wouldn't have chud been around miami at this time as well?


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