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I dont know what anybody sees in Clausen, maybe they're just looking at it differently, but I don't see the pocket awareness or poise needed to play at a high, or even decent, level. He just doesn't look comfortable back there. I can't see that changing anytime soon, but maybe I'm wrong.

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I know its only preseason but Jimmy does look a whole lot better than he did before. Honestly a crappy Rookie season means nothing for a QB. it takes years for QBS to fully develop. Look at Kyle Orton and Eli Manning rookie years. Now that we have Cam I don't see Clausen getting the starting job. The sad thing is if we just would have been patient Jimmy could probably develop into a starting QB. Now he probably won't ever become a starter for the panthers. Who knows maybe Cam will be a bust or maybe we will trade him and he will have a succesful career elsewhere. All I know is that there is a very low chance of Jimmy having a succesful career here.

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I know its only preseason but Jimmy does look a whole lot better than he did before. Honestly a crappy Rookie season means nothing for a QB. it takes years for QBS to fully develop. Look at Kyle Orton and Eli Manning rookie years. Now that we have Cam I don't see Clausen getting the starting job. The sad thing is if we just would have been patient Jimmy could probably develop into a starting QB. Now he probably won't ever become a starter for the panthers. Who knows maybe Cam will be a bust or maybe we will trade him and he will have a succesful career elsewhere. All I know is that there is a very low chance of Jimmy having a succesful career here.

Clausen had 7 pass attempts.

He had 3 drives that resulted in a 3 and out (2 clearly aided in that by his poor pocket play)

He had a pick 6 on another.

i realize Clausen was horrific so improvement from horrific to bad should be easy.....but in that TINY window we saw him with so much bad mixed into it.....how are people claiming clearly improvement?!?!?!

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Clausen sucks. deal with it, people.

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Clausen had 7 pass attempts.

He had 3 drives that resulted in a 3 and out (2 clearly aided in that by his poor pocket play)

He had a pick 6 on another.

i realize Clausen was horrific so improvement from horrific to bad should be easy.....but in that TINY window we saw him with so much bad mixed into it.....how are people claiming clearly improvement?!?!?!

If LaFell doesn't step out of bounds with NOBODY around him who knows where one of those three and out drives gets to. Say it went for a FG, that's 10 points in 4 drives which is pretty damn good.

I maintain that he's going to be a solid pro QB, possibly a very good one in the right system.

Sadly that won't be here 'cos everyone and their mother is infatuated with Newton.

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Clausen had 7 pass attempts.

He had 3 drives that resulted in a 3 and out (2 clearly aided in that by his poor pocket play)

He had a pick 6 on another.

i realize Clausen was horrific so improvement from horrific to bad should be easy.....but in that TINY window we saw him with so much bad mixed into it.....how are people claiming clearly improvement?!?!?!

he threw a TD that was longer than 5 yards, that's how.

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If LaFell doesn't step out of bounds with NOBODY around him who knows where one of those three and out drives gets to. Say it went for a FG, that's 10 points in 4 drives which is pretty damn good.

I maintain that he's going to be a solid pro QB, possibly a very good one in the right system.

Sadly that won't be here 'cos everyone and their mother is infatuated with Newton.

If LaFell hadn't of stepped out of bounds....it still doesn't take away the high number of bad plays from him in that very small window. LaFell catching the ball also doesn't mean Jimmy wouldn't of game in directly after it and continued w/ poor play mixed in.

I don't disagree with your 2nd thought....but this ain't the system.

also if we are playing ifs.....there are way more plays on Cam's side you could say IF this went differently........

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Except nobody is tearing Newton's game to pieces because they have a personal dislike of him.

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Cam has rejuvenated the fanbase and will put butts in the seats, and he hasn't even taken a snap in the regular season....this is something that Clausen never could do

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Except nobody is tearing Newton's game to pieces because they have a personal dislike of him.

Newton wasn't pathetic for a year in a Panther uniform already

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He has less than one season, a rookie season, under his belt. The book is far from closed.

outlandish claims about his "limitations" and "inability" to do this or that are a bit premature

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Last year shouldn't be, and won't be, why Newton starts over Clausen, if he does.

The future will be.

Let's wait until both guys have had a bit more of an equal competition before we really try to compare them much though.

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