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#16 mmmbeans

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:13 PM

That's so very true.

I don't think cocaine or heroin could ever be legalized though. The problem with trying to legalize and tax pot is that it's so easy to grow. I think any tax money gained would be immediately spent on preventing people from growing their own.


there's very little incentive to growing your own if you can walk down the street and buy some. It's like brewing beer, very easy, cheaper and better quality, but at the end of the day, most people don't do it because it's just a pain in the ass compared to getting it from the store.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:26 PM

What if we started by just decriminalizing drugs (maybe start with MJ), rather than going right to legalizing.

make it a slap on the wrist. Here's your fine. Move along.
No more stupid drug cases clogging up the courts. Get 1/3 of the prison population out of jail. Like i care if some dude gets high all the time? Make pot like alcohol and the rest of it NOT on par with manslaughter and you have a start on stopping the dumbest "war" ever started.

#18 Matt Foley

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:40 PM

Yes, they are. So do you have a lot of political arguments with the guy who pulls the gerbil out of your ass? :P


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#19 rodeo

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:27 PM

but seriously, there are about 10 hardcore liberals that regularly post in the tinderbox. have you ever seen one advocate banning guns?

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:38 PM

(waits for reference to one wacky site where someone says they would like to ban guns, and point to that as proof all liberals want to take your guns)

Until then here is the Democratic Party plank on firearms:

Firearms

We recognize that the right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation, but we know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact and enforce commonsense laws and improvements – like closing the gun show loophole, improving our background check system, and reinstating the assault weapons ban, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals. Acting responsibly and with respect for differing views on this issue, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe.



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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:38 PM

NC has decriminalized grass to a limited degree. First time offender with less than a 1/2 oz gets 30 days and a $200 fine but its mandatory that the sentence is suspended. For 1/2oz up to 1 1/2oz its 1-120 days & $500 but the guidelines allow for community service/probation in lieu of jail for first timers.

Its a long way from legal but its not jail for "personal" amounts either.

#22 Matt Foley

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:51 PM

but seriously, there are about 10 hardcore liberals that regularly post in the tinderbox. have you ever seen one advocate banning guns?


Yes. And I don't understand why you got your panties in a wad. I was saying both guns and drugs should be legal.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:52 PM

there's very little incentive to growing your own if you can walk down the street and buy some. It's like brewing beer, very easy, cheaper and better quality, but at the end of the day, most people don't do it because it's just a pain in the ass compared to getting it from the store.


Yeah but brewing beer is a process, pot can grow anywhere very easily and the only process involved is drying it out. Get a handful of seeds and toss em in your backyard and you'll never have to buy(with the only factor being quality). I'm sure a lot of people would just buy, but I best a majority would just grow their own because it's so easy.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 02:05 PM

Yeah but brewing beer is a process, pot can grow anywhere very easily and the only process involved is drying it out. Get a handful of seeds and toss em in your backyard and you'll never have to buy(with the only factor being quality). I'm sure a lot of people would just buy, but I best a majority would just grow their own because it's so easy.

By all accounts, getting an ID card for purchase of medical marijuana in California is easier that getting a handicap placard. If that's so you would think that there would be little use for the dispensaries as most people would grow their own (its legal if you have the card). Sure some folks would grow their own, but even with that loophole the marijuana production in Mendecino County, California puts about a billion dollars a year into that economy.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 03:04 PM

Well that's those crazy Californians, us southern folk would be growing our own. :D

But really I think it'd be all about the seeds. Medical marijuana or any other high grade is seedless when bought, illegal or not.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 03:13 PM

Yeah but brewing beer is a process, pot can grow anywhere very easily and the only process involved is drying it out. Get a handful of seeds and toss em in your backyard and you'll never have to buy(with the only factor being quality). I'm sure a lot of people would just buy, but I best a majority would just grow their own because it's so easy.


Same could be said about lettuce or tomatoes, yet the supermarket seems to still be selling them.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 03:17 PM

People would grow their own pot just like they grow their own tobacco.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:06 PM

Same could be said about lettuce or tomatoes, yet the supermarket seems to still be selling them.


Except I could smoke on one tomato sized bud for quite a while.

If anyone has ever had a garden you know it's not just plant and forget. Cannabis is a naturally invasive species - a weed. You don't have to plant and you don't have to maintain or care for it(again, quality is the major factor), just toss out some seeds. I could have enough to smoke all day everyday from an insanely small portion of my backyard.

I might concede that it wouldn't take too many resources to keep people from growing their own to keep it VERY profitable. But I'd be growing the hell out of it myself and I KNOW the mountains would be absolutely covered in a very short time(not like it isn't already :cool:).

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:26 PM

Except I could smoke on one tomato sized bud for quite a while.

If anyone has ever had a garden you know it's not just plant and forget. Cannabis is a naturally invasive species - a weed. You don't have to plant and you don't have to maintain or care for it(again, quality is the major factor), just toss out some seeds. I could have enough to smoke all day everyday from an insanely small portion of my backyard.
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yea if you like schwag.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:43 PM

yea if you like schwag.


All about the seeds.


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