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#151 edromeo

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 12:56 PM

3rd series

o Gun TE 6 yd in route in rhythm on time on target, easy read easy throw

o ? (2:41) Comeback (L) to Edwards- clean pocket no pressure just flat out misses an open Edwards. These are the types of random misses that Cam or any QB cannot have, concentration lapse? Who nows, simply can't have that though.

o Gun (2:47) 3rd&4 Blitz sack. Shula is gonna have to work with Cam a lot here as with most young QB Cam is not recognizing/reacting pre-snap to the blitz to either make a protection change or alert the hot route. RT #65 didn't do Cam any favors with his "Look Out!" block on the NB. At first look I thought Cam didn't look at Shock but @ 3:04 he's looking that way but Shockey doesn't have his head around yet and by the time Shock is open @ 3:05/6 Fins #37 is already closing.

Edited by edromeo, 23 August 2011 - 01:17 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:31 PM

4th Series

o Gun (3:13) PA Zone read TE screen

o Gun (3:19) Blitz. Cam throws off back foot (3:21) to WR#6 running a post (L).
-Cam didn't recognize blitz/hot, likely stayed on his 1st read when @ (3:20) Edwards is open on the ® 5 yard square in
-Rushed decision b/c of pressure and made a bad choice throwing into coverage could've been intercepted


o Gun 3rd&9 PA Zone read WR screen.
-Wasted playcall imo passed up a chance to get Cam comfortable with 3rd (long) down defense especially pre-snap and 'seeing' the blitz and post snap blitz react.

Edited by edromeo, 23 August 2011 - 07:18 PM.


#153 KBlizz

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 06:41 PM

excellent quality. i love it, man. keep them coming!

#154 edromeo

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 06:43 PM

Thanks, I'm almost finished the last series and a summary.

I'll be able to start my own thread soon, so I might move the whole breakdown there and hope for some good old fashioned open friendly Xs and Os talk.

Edited by edromeo, 23 August 2011 - 06:47 PM.


#155 footballisasport

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:00 PM

You'll find that when cam actually moves the offense and scores some touchdowns, a lot of us will be much happier with him. I'm not impressed with future predictions of what he could do, because he hasn't done those things yet.

I'll still acknowledge his mistakes when they occur, but the more positive plays he has, the more positive about them I will be.


I guess u must have learnt your lesson from all the lovefest that was thrown Jimmy's way last year despite his lackluster plays during his preseason games. His preseason was not that much better than Cam's but he was heralded by the media to be giving moore a run for his job. Maybe if u folks had spent as much time disecting Jimmy's preseason game as much as u are with Cam, u would have realized that being accurate alone does not make for a great QB. But it seems as if ur now taking it out on Cam by scrutinizing him so much.

Edited by footballisasport, 23 August 2011 - 09:04 PM.


#156 mav1234

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:10 PM

I guess u must have learnt your lesson from all the lovefest that was thrown Jimmy's way last year despite his lackluster plays during his preseason games. His preseason was not that much better than Cam's but he was heralded by the media to be giving moore a run for his job. Maybe if u folks had spent as much time disecting Jimmy's preseason game as much as u are with Cam, u would have realized that being accurate alone does not make for a great QB. But it seems as if ur now taking it out on Cam by scrutinizing him so much.


which "media"? The local media consistently said Jimmy was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind. The national media said "well they drafted him, he'll start soon!" Neither QB was able to get a TD in the preseason. Were you following the team's quarterback issues last year closely? Because if Fox was considering dropping Moore down the depth chart at any point before TB, he sure didn't let us know.

There was no point in scrutinizing Jimmy's game because there was no real QB competition. Even so, there were threads about it and some who weren't impressed by it and some that were. Jimmy DID get props from a lot of posters after his third preseason game, where I think he only had one incompletion. He still didn't get a TD out of it though.

I agree that being accurate alone is not all it takes to be a great QB. At this point in time, neither option seems like "a great QB" to me.

edit: there were plenty of threads freaking out and complaining about our QB situation. Some of us just hoped we looked so bad because it was the preseason...

edit2: also my hope is that Cam develops into a great QB, but it'll take time. I personally think sitting a rookie for all or most of his first season is a good idea, but others disagree. Whatever ends up working I'll be happy so long as I get to see him improve.

Edited by mav1234, 23 August 2011 - 09:16 PM.


#157 Miaoww

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:19 PM

Clausen started because he had to last year. Moore et al got hurt if I recall and there was nobody else.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:21 PM

Moore was benched in Q4 of Week 2, then won his job from Clausen in a competition during the bye a few weeks later. Clausen started the rest of the season after Moore went down with a season ending injury vs NO I think it was.

edit: to your point though if Moore wasn't concussed in week 1 we probably dont see Clausen for some time, and who knows how the season ends.

Edited by mav1234, 23 August 2011 - 09:24 PM.



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