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Here's my one problem with your post....did you meet Jesus yourself?

Define "meet". :rolleyes:

I think you're getting yourself into something you don't want to get into. Or, perhaps you do... what do I know. :lol:

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We are creating it ourselves after only having a glimmer of understanding about how it works for what, 60 years or less?

Millions of years with a planet full of the right organic compounds and something is just as likely to ferment as not.

There's more evidence than ever that life existed on Mars - and some that suggests that it still does. There's telescopes and techniques now that detect Earth type planets in nearby star systems, and with the new telescope that's being launched, expect that number to grow a lot.

Just because you can't figure something out does not mean there is no logical explanation. Your excuse is one step removed from an Amazon rainforest tribesman wondering how sounds come out of a magic box.

Still waiting on that proof that life exists on Mars.

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So once you see that, will you become an athiest or something?

I doubt it. If you believe that the life-fairy started things here, you will jsut come up with another "one of Gods mysteries" answers.

When someday in the future, we find other intelligent life out there, will each side fight to prove that they are Gods "chosen people"?

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So once you see that, will you become an athiest or something?

I doubt it. If you believe that the life-fairy started things here, you will jsut come up with another "one of Gods mysteries" answers.

When someday in the future, we find other intelligent life out there, will each side fight to prove that they are Gods "chosen people"?

Nope, will just be more amazed by the ORDER that exists...And perplexed by the mechanisms that make them so, or WHAT/WHO made them so.

The more unfathomable things become for you, you except as some sloppy, cosmic accident.

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Here's my one problem with your post....did you meet Jesus yourself?

In the context of reading and studying his life, yes.

Personally no.

I'm moved by your passion, but I don't follow your math.

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Define "meet". :rolleyes:

I think you're getting yourself into something you don't want to get into. Or, perhaps you do... what do I know. :lol:

My point is, everything he said about Jesus sounds great, but it's not rock solid information. Jesus' story was written down by men a couple hundred years after his death. Then translated. And retranslated. And retranslated again.

I don't disagree with the main theme of pstall's post, though. Take out the stuff about Jesus and I agree with all of it.

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Here is my take on the retranslation. First an extensive study on that alone and how it has gone thru could keep you busy for several years.

Stick with me here. We have God, Creator of the Universe. He speaks and there is light and salamanders etc.

Now, we got this here Creator, do you think he is going to be looking over at an ice storm on Pluto and miss when some absent minded scribe jots down the wrong info at the peril of the people he created?

Faith danileson. That is why it is called faith.

Faith is ANTI logic. That is why we love underdogs in so many areas of life.

That is why they make the best movies. Nobody wants to pay to see a movie where everything goes according to plan. How lame and boring.

We love George Mason. We love the autistic kid nailing 3's. We love the person born unable to walk only to win mulitple Olympic medals(Wilma Rudolph).

So much stats and algorithms that tells what is supposed to happen and when it doesn't go according to plan we flip or think there must be an scientific explanation.

The unknown trips us up and it gnaws at us.

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Here is my take on the retranslation. First an extensive study on that alone and how it has gone thru could keep you busy for several years.

Stick with me here. We have God, Creator of the Universe. He speaks and there is light and salamanders etc.

Now, we got this here Creator, do you think he is going to be looking over at an ice storm on Pluto and miss when some absent minded scribe jots down the wrong info at the peril of the people he created?

Faith danileson. That is why it is called faith.

Faith is ANTI logic. That is why we love underdogs in so many areas of life.

That is why they make the best movies. Nobody wants to pay to see a movie where everything goes according to plan. How lame and boring.

We love George Mason. We love the autistic kid nailing 3's. We love the person born unable to walk only to win mulitple Olympic medals(Wilma Rudolph).

So much stats and algorithms that tells what is supposed to happen and when it doesn't go according to plan we flip or think there must be an scientific explanation.

The unknown trips us up and it gnaws at us.

Here's something that has been gnawing at me ever since I found out about it (during the hullaballoo over the Da Vinci Code)...if that Roman emperor doesn't install Christianity in Rome (as a way to control the masses) in 300 AD, do we even know who Jesus Christ was today?

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No.

Same as if you were born in Tikrit. You'd be learning about Muhammad.

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Here's something that has been gnawing at me ever since I found out about it (during the hullaballoo over the Da Vinci Code)...if that Roman emperor doesn't install Christianity in Rome (as a way to control the masses) in 300 AD, do we even know who Jesus Christ was today?

"bloody catholics filling the bloody world up with people they can't afford to bloody feed.

What are we dear?

Protestant! and fiercely proud of it!"

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Constantine? He made Christianity "legal" more or less. Thus he is the one you could say began the blurring of the line between church and state. Edict of Milan for reference.

There is a great book called "Will the Real Heretics please stand up?"

It takes on 2nd AD Christianity and how they got TOO involved in politics, civilian affairs and got off the right path and being just like any other big corp.

Sadly today, there is alot of blurring. Far too many churches use the pulpit for politics or propagnada or to bilk money out of the poor people in the audience.

A "true" christian will stand out. It will be obvious. During Rome's heyday, they didn't actually hunt down christians until that person was ACCUSED of being one. Think about that.

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Constantine? He made Christianity "legal" more or less. Thus he is the one you could say began the blurring of the line between church and state. Edict of Milan for reference.

There is a great book called "Will the Real Heretics please stand up?"

It takes on 2nd AD Christianity and how they got TOO involved in politics, civilian affairs and got off the right path and being just like any other big corp.

Sadly today, there is alot of blurring. Far too many churches use the pulpit for politics or propagnada or to bilk money out of the poor people in the audience.

A "true" christian will stand out. It will be obvious. During Rome's heyday, they didn't actually hunt down christians until that person was ACCUSED of being one. Think about that.

Yea, it's crazy when you meet "true christians" it's almost like being around real people!

/i keed......mostly.

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