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#151 DeAngelo's #1 Fan(CRA)

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:39 PM

How that even possible? We had 10 first downs in the Miami game, 3 in the first half when Cam was playing. So that means Jimmy lead us to 7 first downs in the second half.


Miami game.

Clausen had 6.

drive 2 - 1 1st down
drive 3 - 4 first downs
drive 4 - 1 first down

anyone can look at the play by play

http://espn.go.com/n...819015&period=3

http://espn.go.com/n...819015&period=4

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:42 PM

Miami game.

Clausen had 6.

drive 2 - 1 1st down
drive 3 - 4 first downs
drive 4 - 1 first down

anyone can look at the play by play

http://espn.go.com/n...819015&period=3

http://espn.go.com/n...819015&period=4


According to NFL.com We had 10 total first downs. Cam had 3 in the first half. That would mean Clausen had 7 in the second half. Unless they miscalculated you don't even need to look at the play by play

And if Clausen had 6 in the Miami game alone then why did you only include his first downs from that game but you included Cam's from both games.

Clausen lead the O to 6 first downs - 10 drives

Cam lead the O to 10 first downs. - 12 drives


Edited by chef17, 23 August 2011 - 01:54 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:47 PM

So unless Cam had 7 first downs in the first game, which I'll give you a hint and tell you he didn't, there is no way possible for him to have more first downs...and you have already proven yourself wrong on who has had more drives...just admit, Jimmy, to this point, has been better

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Cam Newton

3rd Q - NYG

Drive 1 - 4 first downs
Drive 2 - goodson fumble
Drive 3 - 3 and out
Drive 4 - 2 first downs

6 first downs - 2nd Q

http://espn.go.com/n...813029&period=2

Drive 5 -1 1st down
Drive 6 - 1st down
Drive 7 -

2 first down in the 3rd Q

http://espn.go.com/n...813029&period=3

2 + 6 = 8 first downs in the NY game for Cam

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:50 PM

According to NFL.com We had 10 total first downs. Cam had 6 in the first half. That would mean Clausen had 7 in the second half. Unless they miscalculated you don't even need to look at the play by play

And if Clausen had 6 in the Miami game alone then why did you only include his first downs from that game but you included Cam's from both games.


why don't you look at the play by play then.....it doesn't take much work/time.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:51 PM

According to NFL.com We had 10 total first downs. Cam had 6 in the first half. That would mean Clausen had 7 in the second half. Unless they miscalculated you don't even need to look at the play by play


I could be missing something but this doesn't make sense to me

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:53 PM

Right so how many did Cam have in the first game? How many did Jimmy have...and you don't have to count the TD

Dude you really need to stop...really


Cam had 8 against NY

Clausen had 3 aganist NY plus the TD throw.

Like I said, I am willing to show you the numbers. You on the other hand say your numbers are much different yet you are too afraid to post them. Give me the 3 and out or 1st down numbers for the NY game....

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:53 PM

why don't you look at the play by play then.....it doesn't take much work/time.


It isn't even necessary. You said Clausen had 6 first downs and Cam had 10. He had 6 in Miami and had at least 1 in the Giants game. So he had more than 6. It seems like you are counting both games for Cam but only the Miami game for Clausen.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:54 PM

I could be missing something but this doesn't make sense to me


Was supposed to be 3. My mistake

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:02 PM

It isn't even necessary. You said Clausen had 6 first downs and Cam had 10. He had 6 in Miami and had at least 1 in the Giants game. So he had more than 6. It seems like you are counting both games for Cam but only the Miami game for Clausen.


Gotcha. Just went back and read the post. You are right. That happens when you post from work.

Cam - 11 first downs

Clausen - 10 first downs

In all honesty, trying to flip quickly over and pull stats while at work has proven to be a bad idea. I made so many errors it ain't funny. Will only do that from now on at home. It actually look more even than I initially thought.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:05 PM

Gotcha. Just went back and read the post. You are right. That happens when you post from work.

Cam - 11 first downs

Clausen - 10 first downs

In all honesty, trying to flip quickly over and pull stats while at work has proven to be a bad idea. I made so many errors it ain't funny. Will only do that from now on at home. It actually look more even than I initially thought.


I wasn't trying to be a smartass or anything. I personally didn't even care who had more first downs. I was just confused by the numbers.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:08 PM

I wasn't trying to be a smartass or anything. I personally didn't even care who had more first downs. I was just confused by the numbers.


Not at all. I don't want to post inaccurate stuff. Good eye. Like I said, I will wait from now on until off work to try to pull stats. Obviously I don't have time here at work to get that stuff right.

for what it's worth, I put this on that post.

PLEASE NOTE I WILL CHECK THIS FOR ACCURACY WHEN I GET OFF WORK. HAVE FOUND OUT THAT SOME NUMBERS ARE OFF.

Edited by CRA, 23 August 2011 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:11 PM

Cam had 8 against NY

Clausen had 3 aganist NY plus the TD throw.

Like I said, I am willing to show you the numbers. You on the other hand say your numbers are much different yet you are too afraid to post them. Give me the 3 and out or 1st down numbers for the NY game....


NY game I have Cam at 5 first downs

http://www.nfl.com/g...post-playbyplay

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:14 PM

NY game I have Cam at 5 first downs

http://www.nfl.com/g...post-playbyplay


I think NFL.com has some mistakes. Cause in the Miami game they give Clausen 7 when he had 6. And the espn breakdown has Cam with 8 in the Giants game.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:17 PM

I think NFL.com has some mistakes. Cause in the Miami game they give Clausen 7 when he had 6. And the espn breakdown has Cam with 8 in the Giants game.


It really doesn't matter to me I just don't like people making assumptions then ignoring facts

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:17 PM

NY game I have Cam at 5 first downs

http://www.nfl.com/g...post-playbyplay


Do me a quick favor....how many first downs did he get on his first drive?


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