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#37 Zod

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:44 AM

Brett Favre says hi.


Favre sat his rookie year.

#38 ncbobcat

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:44 AM

Brett Favre says hi.


Aaron Rodgers says look at my ring.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:45 AM

Brett Favre says hi.


Lets be honest, Favre's footwork was never as bad as Newton's. I wish Newton the best because I am a panther fan. But I think if he starts we have to focus on turning this offense into the old Titans offense and not the Chargers offense. Focus on running the ball with a lot of bootlegs that allow Cam to run. Chuck the ball downfield enough to keep the defense honest/keep SS from killing someone and see if we can create a VY style rookie season for Cam.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:46 AM

Peyton Manning threw 26 td's his rookie year. I will give the guy the requisite year before I completely judge. BUT this guy is REALLY unpolished. I expect a little more if a first overall pick is legitimate.


Good perspective, but a lot of people look really unpolished when they have 3 guys closing in on them from every direction within 2 seconds of snapping the ball.

I'm also wondering what's going on with Kalil and the Gs... The middle was getting pushed back quicker than guys were running past Gross most of the game last night.

#41 King Taharqa

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:46 AM

If Luck was here we wouldnt have these problems. Say what you want but Luck is a lot more accurate and he has better footwork. He may have stats that were more similar to Clausens but in the immortal words of John Fox, "It is what it is."


Stafford > Luck

Luck will still be a rookie and struggle like every other QB to come in this league. You guys are gonna ruin Luck putting this kind of pressure on him to live up to fantasy and make believe. He's not built like you guys are portraying him.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:47 AM

Favre sat his rookie year.


That's my point. He didn't refine anything :lol:.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:47 AM

Rivers and Rodgers are two great examples of QB's who sat a couple of years and had time to adjust to the speed of the NFL and the work that it took to be a top notch QB. Not to mention those guys were MUCH better prepared for an NFL offense than Cam Newton already. I am, and have always been, of the opinion that the majority of rookie QB's need some bench time before they get thrown in there. ESPECIALLY on bad teams, which we are. I just don't see that payoff of "letting him learn" out there while playing with no receivers, no blocking and no running game.


they sat b/c there were better options than playing them as rookies.....signifantly better options. That's what it always comes down to. Matt Ryan would have sat if he was in there spots as well.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:47 AM

http://nbcsports.msn.../ns/sports-nfl/

Start Culpepper! Stafford looked abysmal in his 2nd preseason start. 5-13 34 yards, and an INT on the FIRST PLAY of the game. But hey, lets hold this years #1 draft pick to a higher standard. Guarantee if Luck was here, the response would be so different.


Yeah, he looks terrible too. And even he completely more than 30% of his passes. Cam was lucky one of his ducks last night were not picked off, they came close.

I feel Cam has it in him to be a future pro bowler, but its just too much too soon for him right now.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:49 AM

Good perspective, but a lot of people look really unpolished when they have 3 guys closing in on them from every direction within 2 seconds of snapping the ball.

I'm also wondering what's going on with Kalil and the Gs... The middle was getting pushed back quicker than guys were running past Gross most of the game last night.


Manning could also move the chains and throw TDs. I'll take picks as long as offense can move the ball and put points on the board--TDs, not FGs.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:50 AM

they sat b/c there were better options than playing them as rookies.....signifantly better options. That's what it always comes down to. Matt Ryan would have sat if he was in there spots as well.


I agree we don't have much better options but maybe that is something we should have considered when we were making our offseason signings. It's not like there were not good or serviceable QB's to be had.

I was screaming all offseason(although not on here) for us to sign a good veteran QB for Cam to learn from and sit behind.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:51 AM

Cam lovers..."someone else's fault"

Cam haters..."he sucks"


I'm a Cam nut hugger and I think he sucks

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:51 AM

Aaron Rodgers says look at my ring.


Point was, Favre made a hall of fame career by throwing unorthodox, quirky, and recklessly... how many of his highlights show him throwing off his backfoot? A lot.

Not saying I want Cam to be Favre-like because as good as he was, Favre's tendency to gamble and throw INTs at horrible times cost them a lot of games and had to piss people off.

That's one thing Cam already has in his backpocket is that he's not making big mistakes or playing reckless and turning the ball over. He's making good decisions, he just needs to work on some things as he practices and plays IMO. It'll come to him.

(SN: And Favre had a ring before Rodgers, but I get what you were saying, lol)