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#136 CRA

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:11 PM

Can we please stop acting like Cam Newton is bigger than the team itself. The most polarizing figure in our francise history? GTFO he hasn't touched the field yet, by your definition since preseason doesn't matter. Sorry to break it to you, but Cam is just another number on the roster.


this board is evidence that your statement is false.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:13 PM

I have to respectfully disagree. He may have the most potential but there were 5 to 10 players that actually showed more skill than he did on the field...and they have shown more skill than he has thus far during preseason. Where they all end up is anyones guess but I can't say he was the smartest choice for #1 pick.


can't agree.....Cam was probably the best and most skilled athlete in the draft.

Big difference between asking Cam to learn and lead this offense from the QB position........and what you ask for a DT. One has a simple job, one has a very complex job. One should be ahead of the other by a pretty big margin at this point.......

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:18 PM

can't agree.....Cam was probably the best and most skilled athlete in the draft.

Big difference between asking Cam to learn and lead this offense from the QB position........and what you ask for a DT. One has a simple job, one has a very complex job. One should be ahead of the other by a pretty big margin at this point.......


Cam definitely had the most upside.

He was nowhere near the safest pick.

He is the poster child for risk-reward pick.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:19 PM

Sorry but i know someone very close to me who was falsely accused and beat the rap. But back on topic. Cam must work from the pocket to be a successful quarterback in the NFL.


And I know family who lives near where the case occurred and followed it closely and he definitely did it but the victim decided not to press charges due to the publicity and uproar that would have occurred. After all she was only a college student and drinking underage and by all accounts drunk so didn't want to pursue it. Still happened though.

And Newton has to be able to work on the run, in the pocket and wherever he is to be effective. But no he doesn't have to be simply a pocket passer, that would be diminishing his talent.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:26 PM

You know, a QB saying he has to trust the system is about the most uncontroversial thing he can do.

The fact that Cam made the statement and it has this many pages of posts about it tells me he is going to be the most polarizing figure in panthers history.

Right now its Jake Delhomme hands down. But when its all said and done it will be Cam. Dude is coming in with the highest expectations ever for a Panthers QB. He's already under the telescopes they use to gaze at Pluto.

true.

That's a bold statement. I hope your predictions are correct.

Can we please stop acting like Cam Newton is bigger than the team itself. The most polarizing figure in our francise history? GTFO he hasn't touched the field yet, by your definition since preseason doesn't matter. Sorry to break it to you, but Cam is just another number on the roster.

not sure you understand what polarizing means. they mean he is /is going to essentially be the most divisive personality/player just by his being here. that he will be the most controversial player/subject. they mean that he is going to have people either love him or hate him and both camps are going to be large and hardcore.

i'm not sure it's something that i want to be true, but the evidence is pointing to it being the case. every little thing he does and says is going to be under the microscope and will be getting more attention (good or bad) and more praise/criticism than it deserves.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:34 PM

They didnt become that way until we got Cam. You could've put Pee Wee Herman out there as our QB in years past and you wouldnt see this micro-analyzing of the position from fans. Like I said, Cam Newton has brought standards to the QB position in Carolina. There were none prior to April.


is your opinion high?

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:38 PM

Cam definitely had the most upside.

He was nowhere near the safest pick.

He is the poster child for risk-reward pick.

i agree with this.

i felt that the potential was too great to pass up but that his character (the last couple years), work ethic and ability to learn along with his natural talent as a player and his leadership abilities made hi worth the selection.

was it safe? i don't think it was reckless, but it wasn't the safest, either...but that isn't a bad thing. i'm not one that believes the best choices in life are the "safest" ones. a life without risk leads to mediocrity and we have had far to much of that here in carolina under the risk averse fox.

after last year, this team needed to be bold. it needed to address it's biggest problems head on and the thing that has been holding this team back for years and would have continued to do so is the QB position.

the team, esp. the offense, and the fanbase needed a shot in the arm. it needed someone dynamic that would supercharge everything. it needed to go after the guy the most upside and hope that his base skillset and ability to learn combined with their coaching staffs ability to develop the guy was enough to make the pick reach his potential.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:52 PM

If he was drafted in Andy Dalton's spot no bigger, but no the Panthers took a reach and he should be under the scope.


Oh please...Enough with the false rational of why Cam is under the microscope. Cam was under the microscope ever since he announced he was entering the draft and something tells me he will never stop being under the microscope. No matter how good he plays, someone will be sitting there finding something to make a bigger deal out of and make it the main focus.

What I find so funny is, with all the media brew ha-ha about The Golden Calf of Bristol dropping to the #3 spot on the QB list due to his inaccuracies and footworks, there isn't one article making a big deal about it or telling him how to fix them. Instead, many of the articles are either blaming Denver or the coach.

Sadly, there are many who feel without much proof, that Cam needs to be told what to fix on a daily basis cause I guess those around him aren't doing a good enough job.

And yes, I follow football, not just Cam Newton. So I pay attention to how all team and every QB, especially the new ones, is being handled by the media.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:58 PM

first off, most quarterbacks have to throw off their back foot when they are getting pressured. They also have to side arm it, toss it, and other things to make a play. He doesn't do it when he has time and can step up in his throws. Too much is being made of it.

What he is talking about is knowing where a receiver is going to be and throwing to a spot trusting that the receiver is going to be there to make a play. If you watch his throws many of them are arriving late because he is waiting for the receiver to get open before he throws. By the time the ball gets there, the defender has closed on the receiver and can easily make a play on the ball. You could see that with smitty on several occasions in the last game. Smitty was open for a moment but by the time cam found him and threw it, he wasn't open anymore.
That is what he means by trusting the system. It was also the main issue with newton at the combine where he was used to throwing to a receiver not a spot on a timing route. That is a much bigger issue for cam at this point. Plus if he throws on a timing route instead of holding the ball until someone clears, he is much more likely not to be pressured which results in many of the back foot throws.


qft

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 05:01 PM

His mechanics breakdown most when the line breaks down.

He is saying he has to execute better, which would encompass all area's of play.
Even mechanics.

Its not a 100% mechanics issues, its a total offensive execution issue.


But Cam is a bad person Kurb! You have to see that in what he said here!!

:rolleyes:

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 05:01 PM

Cam definitely had the most upside.

He was nowhere near the safest pick.

He is the poster child for risk-reward pick.


U mean the way the media made Mike Vick the posterchild for animal cruelty? BTW, who determine who gets to be poster children for anything?

And by what criteria? Cause all I remember during the draft was nothing but fear mongering as far as Cam was concerned. I even remembered reading an article where some Panther fans were going to show their protest for Cam by wearing Anti-Cam t-shirts if he did get drafted by the Panthers. I was like...WTF..

I'm glad during the draft that many didn't share those ignorant sentiments but it does show the real power of our media's ability to play to the fears and prejudices of the fans.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 05:07 PM

U mean the way the media made Mike Vick the posterchild for animal cruelty? BTW, who determine who gets to be poster children for anything?

And by what criteria? Cause all I remember during the draft was nothing but fear mongering as far as Cam was concerned. I even remembered reading an article where some Panther fans were going to show their protest for Cam by wearing Anti-Cam t-shirts if he did get drafted by the Panthers. I was like...WTF..

I'm glad during the draft that many didn't share those ignorant sentiments but it does show the real power of our media's ability to play to the fears and prejudices of the fans.

he was a high risk high reward prospect. he wasn't a safe pick.

not sure that is a criticism. tone it down a little.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 05:10 PM

Oh please...Enough with the false rational of why Cam is under the microscope. Cam was under the microscope ever since he announced he was entering the draft and something tells me he will never stop being under the microscope. No matter how good he plays, someone will be sitting there finding something to make a bigger deal out of and make it the main focus.

What I find so funny is, with all the media brew ha-ha about The Golden Calf of Bristol dropping to the #3 spot on the QB list due to his inaccuracies and footworks, there isn't one article making a big deal about it or telling him how to fix them. Instead, many of the articles are either blaming Denver or the coach.

Sadly, there are many who feel without much proof, that Cam needs to be told what to fix on a daily basis cause I guess those around him aren't doing a good enough job.

And yes, I follow football, not just Cam Newton. So I pay attention to how all team and every QB, especially the new ones, is being handled by the media.


Cam has been under the microscope the day Auburn became #1 on the BCS, and the Alabama Crimson Tide media folks launched a smear campaign against him.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 05:17 PM

U mean the way the media made Mike Vick the posterchild for animal cruelty? BTW, who determine who gets to be poster children for anything?


:mad5: What an absurd statement. Michael Vick made Michael Vick the posterchild for animal cruelty when he held puppies underwater and drown them.:mad5:

I can see Cam being the NFL quarterback risk/reward posterchild. Spread quarterbacks don't typically do that great in the NFL. He does have the athletic ability and he has been working his butt off. I've seen several times I know he could have run for a first down and I hope the coaches don't stifle that part of game. But the passing game being there is a wait and see, for me, right now.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 05:55 PM

I don't recall The Golden Calf of Bristol being the 1st overall pick.


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