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In-State College Tuition for Illegal Immigrants

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many is a relative term, as in "12 slaves is too many."

actually i know that it's a bigger problem than even the article implies. I have many friends that operate travelling free clinics in flyover states where there are essentially no regulations. however these are all stories that aren't reported so I can't link you to anything.

if you like, I guess i could say my word choice exceeded my empirical ability to prove it, but that wasn't a conscious choice on my part.

You do that a lot.

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You do that a lot.

then it should be easy for you to find another example of me unintentionally basing a description on anecdotal observation instead of easily citable statistical information.

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Ok I'm just going to take the plunge and go for the extreme example...

So should we let a known and self confessed drug dealing pederast rapist attend a local community college at the in state tuition level as long as he has lived in in the community for more than 1 year? Or do you think we ought to throw his ass in jail?

I'm going to vote for the jail option. Likewise I'm voting to deport the criminals who are in the country in violation of every immigration law.

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i addressed that above.

friendly reminder that the slave anecdote was just a quick retort to your assertion that their lives are VASTLY better here, something you still haven't backed up. or are you just going to burden of proof me that their lives AREN'T vastly superior?

But logically a person would leave a lesser state of well being for one that would be considered at the very least better, no?

Relativity.

So your argument is with the word vastly, I'd wager.

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But logically a person would leave a lesser state of well being for one that would be considered at the very least better, no?

yes, but the assumption that they all live that way ignores the SCORES of people scpanther apparently deals with, who crowd into a house, send all their money back, and don't spend a dime on themselves.

So your argument is with the word vastly, I'd wager.

k

i can see why someone like you would think that.

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also you can provide evidence that their life is vastly superior here any time you like.

Where in this thread did I ever assert their lives are vastly better here? You're the one throwing that word around.

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This country's life blood has and always will be immigrants. Capitalism's basic building block is a working class driven to succeed and innovate. Regardless of your personal feelings on it, we need these people as much as they need us and they fill a massive whole in our economic system. Everyone benefits from their education. Middle class kids don't want to be engineers and chemists, they want to be artists and musicians. We still need engineers.

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yes, but the assumption that they all live that way ignores the SCORES of people scpanther apparently deals with, who crowd into a house, send all their money back, and don't spend a dime on themselves.

As opposed to staying in their own countries, where there is no money to be made, where they can watch their spouses and children die of starvation right in front of them without the possibility of doing anything to stop it?

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yes, but the assumption that they all live that way ignores the SCORES of people scpanther apparently deals with, who crowd into a house, send all their money back, and don't spend a dime on themselves.

i can see why someone like you would think that.

Please help me out with the "someone like me" part.

It sounds mildly condescending, which is funny coming from someone like you.

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Where in this thread did I ever assert their lives are vastly better here? You're the one throwing that word around.

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/9490-state-college-tuition-illegal-immigrants-2.html#post1973644

Not really, their quality of life is still vastly better here than it is wherever they came from. Many die with a car, clothes on their back, years of living with indoor plumbing. Just because they don't own a mansion or wield ridiculous levels of political influence doesn't mean they didn't achieve some greater level of success by coming here.

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And that last post takes us right back to vastly.

Guess I'm not as philosophically challenged as the Fizzer thinks.

Oops.

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sales tax

illegal immigrants are also a large percentage of those that buy lottery tickets which are essentially a voluntary tax

Wasting money on lottery tickets and begging for a discount on college tuition.

Makes sense.

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