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#31 Inimicus

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 10:54 AM

If more Christians focused on their own celebration of the birth of their savior and less on what was going on in other peoples homes it would be a significantly better holiday for all.

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 10:54 AM

I don't have to be a Christian to appreciate what Jesus the Philosopher stood for. Peace, love, equality. I think we can all celebrate that this time of year, no?

true.may i ask why you dont follow christ as god but you know he is real as a philosopher.
i study many religons but i just feel christianty is the real deal in lame terms.going threw a hard life god to me is number 1 in my faith

#33 Samuel L. Jackson

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 10:56 AM

So Jesus is your crutch? I guess that's alright by me... just don't whine that he isn't mine..

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:00 AM

So where does Santa come into play?



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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:03 AM

true.may i ask why you dont follow christ as god but you know he is real as a philosopher.
i study many religons but i just feel christianty is the real deal in lame terms.going threw a hard life god to me is number 1 in my faith


I do believe the man existed. He is mentioned by an impartial historian as one of many messiah's of the time. None of his miracles or anything are mentioned, just that a Rabi with radical ideas was around. The gospels themselves can't get the story straight, for instance, who saw Jesus after he rose? They don't even agree on that simple story, which leads me to believe there were a lot of stories and speculations at the time. That probably explains the picking and choosing of which stories make up the bible by a bunch of politicians.

Anywho, I believe what I believe, I celebrate Christmas which is a holiday that has absorbed many pagan rituals, (christmas trees for example), because I think its a nice holiday and the overall message of Peace and good will toward men is a good one. :)

I don't bash you for why you want to celebrate it.

#36 Samuel L. Jackson

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:04 AM

thus sayeth the Zod!

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:06 AM

Excellent, zod.

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:10 AM

So Jesus is your crutch? I guess that's alright by me... just don't whine that he isn't mine..


by crutch you mean my support yes.i just want some smart conversation with everbody.if anything i feel sorry for people that has not felt the love of christ.but that is your choice

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:14 AM

by crutch you mean my support yes.i just want some smart conversation with everbody.if anything i feel sorry for people that has not felt the love of christ.but that is your choice


I don't fault you for believing the way you do. Why fault others for theirs?

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:15 AM

by crutch you mean my support yes.i just want some smart conversation with everbody.if anything i feel sorry for people that has not felt the love of christ.but that is your choice


Does Jesus give bear hugs or like quick chest bumps?

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:24 AM

I don't fault you for believing the way you do. Why fault others for theirs?


you are right.
let he who be with out sin cast the first stone.
i just feel sometimes people cheapen christmas when they dont believe in christ thats all i am saying.

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:26 AM

terrorist fist bumps?

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:27 AM

Retailers cheapened Christmas.

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:32 AM

you are right.
let he who be with out sin cast the first stone.
i just feel sometimes people cheapen Christmas when they don't believe in Christ that's all i am saying.


first off /fixed

Secondly I think too many Christians forget what the day is supposed to be about to them and get caught up in worrying about everything else and that cheapens the day more than anything that people who don't share our beliefs can do.

#45 Samuel L. Jackson

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:33 AM

you are right.
let he who be with out sin cast the first stone.
i just feel sometimes people cheapen christmas when they dont believe in christ thats all i am saying.


He only said that because he wanted the first crack at the guy..


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