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#25 PantherFanForLife

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:57 PM

If we stay ahead .. why do we need to even worry about their running game?

that's really just stating the obvious .. no offense

If we stay ahead they can run/pass for 5000 yards and we'll still win!

What we need are ling sustained drives ... aka run the ball better

Just my opinion


Early. Yeah it's stating the obvious, but I see more people concerned bout our D's inability to stopping their run when it may end up being a moot point instead of being concerned with the bigger problem:

If we let them go up......then they can keep our offense off the field and chew up the clock and at that point Cam isn't a shoe-in for a 400 yard game like everyone, including analysts, are predicting. It becomes a very hard game for us at that point.

Also getting ahead early against the Jags isn't the same as getting ahead early against GB. That's kind of the point that may have not been so obvious. Getting up early may just end up being the key to actually winning this game as early as the first quarter. That's not the case against other heavy hitting offenses. And it wasn't against Green Bay. I'd feel quite comfortable being 13-0 against the Jags after the first quarter. I was pissed and as nervous as if we were 0-0 when we were up 13-0 on Green Bay.

The Jaguars, even with their great running game can't produce the kind of offense our team can.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 06:01 PM

Oh .. Ok .. I see what you're saying

Yeah sounds about right .. Good point

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 06:06 PM

Actually I said "way", but reading is optional anyway it seems.


I can read just fine ty.
Def of way in that context-a course or plan of action.

Man I do not disagree with your premise-I would love to see us go up early because what you said would probably be true. But then again who would not want to go up by 14 early against anyone regardless of what their strengths are? That logic could apply to any game. Would a way to beat the Patriots be go down by 14 so they now run the ball?

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 06:09 PM

I can read just fine ty.
Def of way in that context-a course or plan of action.

Man I do not disagree with your premise-I would love to see us go up early because what you said would probably be true. But then again who would not want to go up by 14 early against anyone regardless of what their strengths are? That logic could apply to any game. Would a way to beat the Patriots be go down by 14 so they now run the ball?


Green Bay? They gave the ball to us. They had the confidence of coming back from behind even if we scored, and getting the ball first in the second quarter. Paid off for them I would say.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 06:26 PM

It forces their rookie QB to THROW THE BALL. Which does give our D a chance to stop them..


But both the Cardinals and Packers have shut down our running game so far,which has forced Cam to throw the ball. 422 and 432 yards respectively. Not saying I expect the Jaguars to win, because I don't, but since we don't have any game tape on Gabbert, it makes him more dangerous. The fact that Godfrey is out makes me nervous. I don't care if its a high school QB, I don't want to rely on Jordan Pugh to stop the pass.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 06:36 PM

But both the Cardinals and Packers have shut down our running game so far,which has forced Cam to throw the ball. 422 and 432 yards respectively. Not saying I expect the Jaguars to win, because I don't, but since we don't have any game tape on Gabbert, it makes him more dangerous. The fact that Godfrey is out makes me nervous. I don't care if its a high school QB, I don't want to rely on Jordan Pugh to stop the pass.


Valid concern, but any coach is probably still going to rather have his D stack up against a rookie QB, even without tape, than against a star running back, he knows he's going to have trouble stopping.

No one was afraid of Clausen last year just cause they didn't have tape. It's the same situation with Gabbert. I DON'T expect a Cam-like performance. Could he light it up? Sure! Anything's possible. But again, what Cam did is typically the exception to the rule.

You can still prepare for their offense and playbook. The issue with Cam for other teams is what he can personally do outside of that. The throwing on the run, the jukes, the diving throws, the way he stands in the face of pressure at the NFL level.....his personal talent that went above and beyond what anyone expected.

Personally I don't see that type of game-changing ability from Gabbert, but hey...anything can happen. You just can't prepare for "anything". You have to prepare for what you most likely expect to happen.

Edited by PantherFanForLife, 21 September 2011 - 06:39 PM.


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Posted 21 September 2011 - 07:39 PM

Gabbert may not be a "Cam Newton game changer," but he's good enough to win provided he's got some support. He won't put up Cam's numbers but he won't need to for them to win. This game will come down much more to stopping MJD.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 10:09 PM

I need Chris Gamble to continue his superior play and torment Gabbert, go ahead and get a pick six just for good measure.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 11:59 PM

Panthers will win this game...bad defense or whatever...its going to be hard for jacksonville to win when the team they are playing will just march up and down the field at will against them..IMO

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:17 AM

Teams don't typically get away from their game plan in the first half unless it absolutely isn't working. The Jags aren't going to abandon the run early in the game just because they are down.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 01:04 AM

Yall have been giving PFFL a hard time, but he is right on this one. Hopefully we can win the coin toss, and have Cam air it out. If we can get ahead by 2 scores, then not only do we put the game in Blaine Gabbert's hands, but we will get the chance to finally showcase our run-game for once, and see if we can get some production from the O-line and Williams.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 02:07 AM

Green Bay? They gave the ball to us. They had the confidence of coming back from behind even if we scored, and getting the ball first in the second quarter. Paid off for them I would say.


IMO, the Panthers playing GBP was a completely different animal than say them playing Cardinals. The Panthers had to score early and hard for two reasons; confidence builder and because they were playing a team who can score and score quick. U knew realistically if the Panthers didn't come out playing hard, the game would have been over before it got going.

I see the Jags more inline with the Cardinals. They are a little more evenly matched with the Panthers. The mindset should be to win and win early for the reasons that I think u're stating, the Panthers' defense have shown a nack to let the game get away from them.

The Panthers are two games into the season and have played with two different levels of opponents, so they should have an idea what kind of team they are working with by now. But, in reality, a smart team knows there aren't any real weak teams out there. So the feeling that the Jags should be an easy win shouldn't even be a thought when ur own team isn't running on all cylinders.