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#91 raleigh-panther

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:17 PM

How many superbowls did the Panthers win with Peppers?

How many superbowls did the Bears win with Peppers?

GB seemed to handle him pretty good yesterday.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:19 PM

How many superbowls did the Panthers win with Peppers?

How many superbowls did the Bears win with Peppers?

GB seemed to handle him pretty good yesterday.


one person does not win the super bowl :out:

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:22 PM

To be a Top 5 in the league, you actually have to play like it. You can't just be it because of the first part of your statement. This fanbase hasn't exactly seen many great DE's so I guess that's another reason why they overrate Peppers.

Also, FWIW, Reggie White is the greatest DE to ever put on a Panther's uniform. Obviously he didn't have his best days here, but still, to be correct on the technicalities. Although it appears we have a good many people here who would take Peppers over Reggie because, after all Peppers is a "freak"!!!


can't tell if that is sarcasm or not, but peppers is easily the best DE the panthers have had and he is easily top5, not only can he sack but he can chase swing passes and can INT screens how many DEs can do that honestly?

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:23 PM

Panther fans are likely the only people who would argue he isn't a top 5 DE.


That's ironic, because i distinctly remember Panther's fans getting all fired up and defensive whenever fans of opposing teams laughed at us for thinking Julius Peppers was a Top 5 DE.


As I've said, his legend here is bigger than his performance, and I won't hold that against you guys. He was one of the first faces of this team, he's a Tarheel, so i can understand why people are so enamored with him, but if we are being realistic, then it really isn't fair to the Trent Cole's and Dwight Freeney's of the world to act like Peppers is in his own class when those guys outperform on a year by year basis.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:27 PM

can't tell if that is sarcasm or not, but peppers is easily the best DE the panthers have had and he is easily top5, not only can he sack but he can chase swing passes and can INT screens how many DEs can do that honestly?


lol...if you honestly just compared Julius Peppers to Reggie White, I'll just go ahead and put you on ignore now. As I said, Reggie may have not been at his best here, but if we are discussing who is the best DE to ever put on a Panther's uniform, Julius can't even hold Reggie's butt pads.

And most DE's can. That's their job in the modern NFL. Most DE's in today's NFl do that. Don't know where the concept comes from that Julius was the only DE in the league doing something besides rushing the passer. It's commonplace. Honestly.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:29 PM

Bears Peppers>Panthers Peppers

What he was or did doesnt matter bc he's a beast now. I wish he played for the panthers like he plays for the bears. Oh and I hate UNC.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:31 PM

That's ironic, because i distinctly remember Panther's fans getting all fired up and defensive whenever fans of opposing teams laughed at us for thinking Julius Peppers was a Top 5 DE.


As I've said, his legend here is bigger than his performance, and I won't hold that against you guys. He was one of the first faces of this team, he's a Tarheel, so i can understand why people are so enamored with him, but if we are being realistic, then it really isn't fair to the Trent Cole's and Dwight Freeney's of the world to act like Peppers is in his own class when those guys outperform on a year by year basis.


your full of it if you think cole and freeney are close or better then pep, i mean there good and all but freeney is nothing but a pass rusher and cole? really?

only person who comes close to peppers is prob ware

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:33 PM

lol...if you honestly just compared Julius Peppers to Reggie White, I'll just go ahead and put you on ignore now. As I said, Reggie may have not been at his best here, but if we are discussing who is the best DE to ever put on a Panther's uniform, Julius can't even hold Reggie's butt pads.

And most DE's can. That's their job in the modern NFL. Most DE's in today's NFl do that. Don't know where the concept comes from that Julius was the only DE in the league doing something besides rushing the passer. It's commonplace. Honestly.


geuss if kerry collins turned out to be peyton manning he would be considered the best QB panthers have had right? since we drafted him and all?

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:33 PM

lol at peppers having been great on "a couple of occasions." 6 pro bowls, 3 all pro teams is a couple occasions of great play? looks more like a history of elite play

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:34 PM

Peppers isn't consistent. He is a definite play maker though. One of the best in the league.

Johnson is slowly turning into a play maker that is exciting to watch. He's not there yet though.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:38 PM

Bears Peppers>Panthers Peppers

What he was or did doesnt matter bc he's a beast now. I wish he played for the panthers like he plays for the bears. Oh and I hate UNC.


Yes, that's true, but I still don't believe he's on the level of the Top 5. He's Top 10, but not 5.

It's funny how similar this situation is to the Michael Vick saga.

Michael Vick Goes to Atl.
Becomes beloved by the fanbase for being an iconic player who Atl fans feel is the best in the league.
While the rest of the league views Michael Vick as good, they don't view him as highly as Atl fans do.
Michael Vick eventually winds up in Phi, of his own accord.
Atl fanbase resents ownership anyways, and wishes harm against their own team when vick comes to town.
Michael Vick is a better player than he was, but still not on the level of the Brady's, Rodgers..

Julius Peppers goes to Car
becomes beloved by the fanbase for being an iconic player who Car fans feel is the best in the league
While the rest of the league views Peppers as good, they don't view him as highly as Car fans do.
Julius Peppers eventually winds up in Chicago, of his own accord.
Car fanbase resents ownership anyways, and wishes harm against their own team when Peppers' comes to town.
Julius Peppers is a better player than he was, but still not on the level of Tuck's, Allen's.

And of course, Matt Ryan and Charles Johnson fill the same role.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:40 PM

your full of it if you think cole and freeney are close or better then pep, i mean there good and all but freeney is nothing but a pass rusher and cole? really?

only person who comes close to peppers is prob ware


Trent Cole is considered by some to be the best DE in the league. Brewski even posted an article a few pages back discussing it.
Freeney is the best pass rusher of the past decade.
You need to take off your Carolina blue colored glasses my friend.

Honestly the fact that you just downplayed cole speaks to just how knowledgeable about DE's outside of Carolina you are. That is expected from our fanbase though. This fanbase defended Fox for years because they weren't paying attention to how other team's were being run. It's the same principle.

Edited by Cat'sGrowl, 26 September 2011 - 06:44 PM.


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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:44 PM

Yes, that's true, but I still don't believe he's on the level of the Top 5. He's Top 10, but not 5.

It's funny how similar this situation is to the Michael Vick saga.

Michael Vick Goes to Atl.
Becomes beloved by the fanbase for being an iconic player who Atl fans feel is the best in the league.
While the rest of the league views Michael Vick as good, they don't view him as highly as Atl fans do.
Michael Vick eventually winds up in Phi, of his own accord.
Atl fanbase resents ownership anyways, and wishes harm against their own team when vick comes to town.
Michael Vick is a better player than he was, but still not on the level of the Brady's, Rodgers..

Julius Peppers goes to Car
becomes beloved by the fanbase for being an iconic player who Car fans feel is the best in the league
While the rest of the league views Peppers as good, they don't view him as highly as Car fans do.
Julius Peppers eventually winds up in Chicago, of his own accord.
Car fanbase resents ownership anyways, and wishes harm against their own team when Peppers' comes to town.
Julius Peppers is a better player than he was, but still not on the level of Tuck's, Allen's.

And of course, Matt Ryan and Charles Johnson fill the same role.

Yeah panther fans are the only ones who thought he was the best, guess thats why he was/is the highest paid DE in the league right?

Theres lots of good DEs in this league, but you don't think peppers is top 5?
but you think justin tuck is?

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:47 PM

if someone says cole is the best de in the league you should take their opinions w/a grain of salt

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:50 PM

Trent Cole is considered by some to be the best DE in the league. Brewski even posted an article a few pages back discussing it.
Freeney is the best pass rusher of the past decade.
You need to take off your Carolina blue colored glasses my friend.

Honestly the fact that you just downplayed cole speaks to just how knowledgeable about DE's outside of Carolina you are. That is expected from our fanbase though. This fanbase defended Fox for years because they weren't paying attention to how other team's were being run. It's the same principle.


Yes im such a homer, and i know NOTHING except for what the panthers do?
get out of here dude, trent cole? really? when you have better ones to choose from like

DeMarcus Ware
Mario Williams
Abraham

and ill even give u freeney, even tho he is nothing but a pass rusher and he has mathis to take double teams as well

and theres alot of 3-4 OLB who are better then trent cole/tuck with there hand in the ground lmao.

Matthews
Dumervil
Harrison
Orakpo

just to name a few


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