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Israeli troops acted humanely and justly in Gaza strip


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#11 g5jamz

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 10:48 AM

and you'll never understand that the completely ineffective rocket attacks are symptomatic of a society who are trying to prevent their own destruction.


No...that would define insanity.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 11:12 AM

Imagine that...war crimes during a "war".

holy poo is this really a "war is hell" argument?

I'm sure you can find acts of inhumanity in ANY conflict.

yep, it is!

But I struggle to see how Israel actively supports from it's military generals these sorts of acts. Seem like squad-level decisions for the most part.

lol hooooooooooooooooly poo

the oppression of palestinians is hardwired into every level of israeli society.

are military flyovers so frequent that organizations exist to give hearing aids to palestinian children a squad level decision?

is the epidemic of malnourishment among palestinian children due to israeli food embargoes a squad level decision?

is destroying their sewage and power systems a squad level decision?

shooting at ambulances?

using precision guided munitions to destroy UN Schools?

a government led by an elected party whos platform is essentially "we're not bombing palestine enough?"

do all of these things REALLY strike you as squad decisions?

I mean...maybe...call me crazy...maybe Fiz would appreciate the Israeli military more if they simply fired unguided rockets into Gaza and used teens and children to run into Palestinian schools or buses to blow themselves up.

yes I clearly love the unnecessary deaths of civilians because I understand that terrorism has a point and isn't just the brown savage people agains the whites BRAVO GOOD SHOW

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 11:14 AM

No...that would define insanity.

the rocket attacks obviously aren't going to defeat the IDF.

however, the hope is that they can divide popular opinion about the occupation among the Israeli voters and effect some change. these are tactics that have been used effectively during the 20th and 21st century among oppressed people, starting in French Algeria in the 1940s.

It's their only option, since their people are literally starving, their land is being stolen, and Israel has shown that it has no desire for any legitimate diplomatic process.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 11:19 AM

let me put this another way.

figure out what is arguably Israel's biggest export and you'll see yet ANOTHER reason for it to keep waving its dick around in the middle east.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 11:27 AM

let me put this another way.

figure out what is arguably Israel's biggest export and you'll see yet ANOTHER reason for it to keep waving its dick around in the middle east.



enzyte?

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 11:57 AM

I don't buy the argument that the Israelis should be valuing the lives of the Palestinians as much as their own in armed conflict.


But that's rather irrelevant because I don't support the state of Israel or its right to exist at all either way. Period.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 12:18 PM

Maybe Fiz shoulda told Yasser (when he was alive) that going to washington or the UN and moaning about unfair treatment, and demanding peace, then speaking and rebel rousing for Israel's complete and utter destruction, while supporting school bus bombings was probably not the best way to win sympathy.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 12:34 PM

But that's rather irrelevant because I don't support the state of Israel or its right to exist at all either way. Period.


I'll let them know. I'm sure they'll be heartbroken.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 12:43 PM

holy poo is this really a "war is hell" argument?

yep, it is!

lol hooooooooooooooooly poo

the oppression of palestinians is hardwired into every level of israeli society.

are military flyovers so frequent that organizations exist to give hearing aids to palestinian children a squad level decision?

is the epidemic of malnourishment among palestinian children due to israeli food embargoes a squad level decision?

is destroying their sewage and power systems a squad level decision?

shooting at ambulances?

using precision guided munitions to destroy UN Schools?

a government led by an elected party whos platform is essentially "we're not bombing palestine enough?"

do all of these things REALLY strike you as squad decisions?

yes I clearly love the unnecessary deaths of civilians because I understand that terrorism has a point and isn't just the brown savage people agains the whites BRAVO GOOD SHOW


Wow...you're just full of propaganda.

Yeah...hearing aids for kids due to flyovers...not the rockets that just took off in their backyard gardens.

Malnourishment...yeah...maybe they should request Iran to send a ship w/ FOOD instead of armaments. I'm sure there's an embargo on weapons too. Right?
http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/7883295.stm
Sure they weren't destined for Hamas....and I love the analogy the BBC uses in the article you put. Compared to Zimbabwe/Congo...where the government powers OVER the people restrict the food supply in order to control the populace.

Hamas is the problem...and until Palestinians rid themselves of them...these kind of things will continue.

As far as schools and ambulances being targetted...when Hamas stops using people as shield...much like they use suicide bombers and unguided rockets...you might see a change in ROE.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 12:47 PM

Wow...you're just full of propaganda.

Yeah...hearing aids for kids due to flyovers...not the rockets that just took off in their backyard gardens.

Malnourishment...yeah...maybe they should request Iran to send a ship w/ FOOD instead of armaments. I'm sure there's an embargo on weapons too. Right?
http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/7883295.stm
Sure they weren't destined for Hamas....and I love the analogy the BBC uses in the article you put. Compared to Zimbabwe/Congo...where the government powers OVER the people restrict the food supply in order to control the populace.

Hamas is the problem...and until Palestinians rid themselves of them...these kind of things will continue.

As far as schools and ambulances being targetted...when Hamas stops using people as shield...much like they use suicide bombers and unguided rockets...you might see a change in ROE.


Ownage. Fiz is your bitch now.