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#16 Marguide

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 11:36 PM

Do you believe the front office personnel are capable of executing a successful draft?


We are a lot more than one top 5 pick away from being "elite". We would have to basically strike gold with every pick of ours plus not lose even more players to injuries plus get a couple of steals in free agency plus have basically every one of our players have a best case scenario offseason development in order to become elite.


Sometimes I swear I am watching a different team than some of you on here.

We field an offense that is very potent, that can put 7 first round draft picks on the field at the same time. And they all play like first rounders. Even more impressive, that group does not include perhaps our best player, Steve Smith, or our pro bowl center, Ryan Kalil.

On defense, we are down arguably our 2 best players, plus one of our FA pickups. In spite of what some say, I think our defensive backs are playing pretty well overall. We have 2 young guys at DT learning on the fly.

As to drafts, go back and compare Hurney's record over his tenure with other GM's, and tell me we haven't drafted well. He has had some bad misses, but all teams do, not just the Panthers.

You could make the case that special teams cost us 3 of our 4 losses. Special teams are largely made up of the bottom of the roster. We don't need 1st round picks to fix special teams.

But if you prefer to think the sky is falling, have at it.

Edited by Marguide, 10 October 2011 - 02:42 AM.


#17 Happy Panther

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 11:48 PM

They're 4-0 and winning "right now" as you keep saying.


Well argued.

#18 CPF4LIFE

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 11:55 PM

Top 10 wr or de fixes this mess? Please, drugs r bad mmmkay


Please do breakdown this "mess" Mr. Mackey.

#19 Match.com

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 12:04 AM

Correction we are going to make it jis year.... The NFL is in shambles... The NFC east weak...west..weak... It's on us to fugg it up and go 9-7

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 12:04 AM

So you're saying... if you don't win, you lose?

Brilliant stuff there.


No. Point is losses are too damaging in this league.

Basically it stacks up like this.

There are usually around 2 teams every year who just have no chance of winning. Last year we were one of them. This year it's Miami and the Colts. Those teams could play LSU and it would be tight.

At the same time there are around 2 teams who are in the playoffs no matter what. I'm thinking Green Bay and New Orleans.

The other 28 teams play an absurdly small number of games to determine who gets a heap load of playoff spots. We are one of those teams. The talent differential between us and any of the other 28 teams is immaterial. Best of the best, bunch of millionaires.

And every year we see a pack of teams who have no more talent than anyone else making a run. This year it is the Lions, Redskins, 49ers, Bills, Bengals, Titans, Raiders...

3 games back in the NBA is close. In the NFL it is season over.

#21 Match.com

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 12:05 AM

Correction we are going to make it jis year.... The NFL is in shambles... The NFC east weak...west..weak... It's on us to fugg it up and go 9-7


It's not over.... A little more time things will click this year. Once we learn how to pull out tough games

#22 jayflip

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 12:34 AM

No one expected us to be competitive this year. We are. No one expected Cam to do anything of substance this year. He is. No one thought Smitty was better than a 3rd round pick in next years draft. He is. We are a few plays away from 4-0. A young team with a new coach, new schemes, a rookie QB with a shortened offseason, and 1,2,3,4,5 starters on IR is NOT supposed to compete with the rest of the NFL. We are.

It's a rebuilding year, and we're ahead of our curve right now. If fans can't see the big picture, then what's the point of being a fan? Go root for the Packers if you want to win right now. If you're here for the ride and the excitement of developing a successful team, then enjoy the ride!

#23 chris999

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 01:09 AM

We have this team with a year of experience, plus Beason, Gettis, Edwards still haven't seen Hogen, plus a top 10 pick at DT, CB, or WR.

We're going to make the playoffs in 2012 for sure.


I think that Cam, our coaches and our offense are going to be a magnet for FAs too. What offensive free agent in his right mind would not want to come be a part of what we're doing here with Cam and Chudzinski.

Not only offensive players, but defense too. Players and agents see an oppertunity to get they're players on a team that is young and on the rise. This team still has some roster spots that are up for grabs on D if you are willing to come in and compete for them. Sports agents and FAs alike can both see this.

#24 thunderraiden

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 01:49 AM

NFL doesn't work that way. Everyone gets new draft picks and gets more experience. You get wins now when you can or you lose.

Get a clue.


Somehow I just don't see that working out for the Eagles.


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