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#37 jramsey4

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 08:05 PM

I don't know why you think giving Newton more weapons, and possibly an elite one at that, and say our need at LB is so bad we'd need to use a first rounder on it. Even if TD is cut or whatever, LB still isn't even in the top 5 of needs.

This thread is about if we have a top 10 pick, and at the time there is no DT worth a top 10 pick, and maybe one CB worth it. There are 3 WR that are worth that. If the BPA is a WR, why complain, if the WR pans out this will make us unbelievably better.


We aren't losing games because our O can't move the ball. You are blind if you can't see that. But of course another WR will solve all our problems.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 08:13 PM

How is drafting a WR in the first round when its the best player available ignoring our defense, when we still have free agency and our other draft picks to address those issues?

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 08:26 PM

How is drafting a WR in the first round when its the best player available ignoring our defense, when we still have free agency and our other draft picks to address those issues?


Last time I checked this is a draft forum. I guess you know who will be available when FA starts and who we will sign.

BPA is a matter of opinion.

Edited by jramsey4, 11 October 2011 - 08:28 PM.


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Posted 11 October 2011 - 08:41 PM

I'm pretty sure our draft needs will change based on players that leave in free agency and who we sign in free agency. Its pretty silly to have your heart set on drafting a defensive player in the first round when a WR might be the better player and the team may have already strengthened the defense before the draft, and vice versa

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 08:51 PM

I'm pretty sure our draft needs will change based on players that leave in free agency and who we sign in free agency. Its pretty silly to have your heart set on drafting a defensive player in the first round when a WR might be the better player and the team may have already strengthened the defense before the draft, and vice versa


I could use the same argument on you for having your heart set on a WR. I am focusing on what we know not on what might happen.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 08:57 PM

if we have a top 10 I'd take the elite receiver

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 09:17 PM

I could use the same argument on you for having your heart set on a WR. I am focusing on what we know not on what might happen.


You must've missed the part where I typed "and vice versa"

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 02:55 AM

We aren't losing games because our O can't move the ball. You are blind if you can't see that. But of course another WR will solve all our problems.


When did I say WR will solve all of our problems.


What I'm saying is if the bpa is a WR then take the WR

And yes, a legit WR #2 will help this team by a lot. When it comes down to those last drives like we've seen in the past few games, then when Smith is covered Cam can throw to to some else who isn't the inconsistent Naanee.


I'm not saying don't address the D, if there's a DT who's better than any of the WRs, take him in a heart beat, but you are so against not taking a second WR it's not even funny.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:42 AM

When did I say WR will solve all of our problems.


What I'm saying is if the bpa is a WR then take the WR

And yes, a legit WR #2 will help this team by a lot. When it comes down to those last drives like we've seen in the past few games, then when Smith is covered Cam can throw to to some else who isn't the inconsistent Naanee.


I'm not saying don't address the D, if there's a DT who's better than any of the WRs, take him in a heart beat, but you are so against not taking a second WR it's not even funny.


It was sarcasm. And as I said BPA is a matter of opinion. Mine is that vary rarely, when a team could use an upgrade on every position on D, is that a #2 WR. Besides you guys all are assuming that all these WR will be great. I don't really love any of them. Jeffery I could live with. And no a #2 WR will not help this team a lot just ask the Falcons. Cam already has a ton of weapons and he is getting Gettis back who is a solid #2.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:11 PM

If this were still a Fox style offense in place, I wouldn't be in favor of going WR in the first...but I gotta say this Blackmon could be lethal in our offense and makes sense:

Newton
Williams-Stewart
Smitty-Blackmon-Gettis-LaFell (& whoever survives this season)
Olsen-Shockey
/with most likely an OL upgrade = the pieces are at least put in place on O

We still have other draft picks and the FA to grab DT, CB, & LB.

...and I wouldn't be surprised if we tried a late rounder on a potential backup for Cam.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:02 PM

The way the draft might play out for us, the BPA would be a WR or CB around pick 9-12. Hopefully Hogan turns out to be a stud and Ron Edwards comes back to show his experience at the DT position.

I like the WR pick here, if Blackmon, Jeffrey, or Floyd is there. But, I think Floyd will be the only receiver left. The Rams will most certainly take a WR. If the #1 CB in the draft is still there...take him. I think given the class at DT would be a reach, but we will see how it turns out.

Either Floyd (WR), Kirkpatrick (CB), or Thompson (DT) will be around to choose from IMO.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:38 PM

Who said Crick is the #1 DT????

Most places I've seen list him as the second best DE, not even as a DT. He's usually ranked in mid 20's overall as well. I could see him being the second or third best DT, but not the best. There's about a 10 spot draft difference between the top DT Thompson and Crick. If Crick was rated as a DT, he would be the second ranked DT comparable to Ta'amu ranking wise.