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#16 Lomez

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:59 PM

wouldn't it be great if Hogan turned out to be our number 2 corner, so we could draft a DT or LB


This, plus it sounds like he may be able to give us a spark on special teams. Whenever we return a kick or punt, I never even entertain the thought that we're taking it to the house. I like Armanti, but I feel like during his returns he's just looking for a place to fall down.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:22 PM

wouldn't it be great if Hogan turned out to be our number 2 corner, so we could draft a DT or LB


I seriously doubt we would draft a CB with our first pick anyways. Not even close to our biggest need. Captain, Gamble, and Butler are playing pretty well. From the tape I have seen on Hogan, I think he can and probably will be the best of the group. As long as he can recover perfectly from the injury. He can be really really good. LB, DT, or WR with our first pick.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:25 PM

Armanti ranks 40th on punt return avg right now. His longest is 14 yds. That's NOT GOOD. And you can't argue that it is.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:26 PM

fwiw draft picks arent what the d-line needs

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:30 PM

fwiw draft picks arent what the d-line needs


Nope, we need Vets.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:34 PM

fwiw draft picks arent what the d-line needs


Exactly. Fua and McClain will be good, but they need time. A veteran FA fat man would do wonders...

#22 pdandy1994

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:39 PM

Hogans awesome on Madden 12...

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:39 PM

Yes can't wait , he has been at most games on the sidelines with the look on his face like wait till I get in there...lol hope him the very best.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:44 PM

Bump n man zone his great on Madden 12 his WV days made someone happy over in the DV team EA.I love playing with our new Team online just beat the steelers 10-9 lmao the kid went for two with 50 seconds to go....

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:49 PM

Yeah i definitely start Hogan on madden with Gamble, he is a beast.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:59 PM

Armanti ranks 40th on punt return avg right now. His longest is 14 yds. That's NOT GOOD. And you can't argue that it is.


you can argue our punt coverage sucks ass.. :jc:

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:00 PM

Armanti ranks 40th on punt return avg right now. His longest is 14 yds. That's NOT GOOD. And you can't argue that it is.

Right on, it's not good at all. Take this as you will, but I also haven't seen any blown chances on his part, either. Hasn't lost one fielding them, either. Seems like there might be a whole lot more going wrong in the PR game than simply Armanti not breaking off huge returns. If Hogan hits the field I'd love to see him get a crack at it if he is solid fielding them.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:03 PM

After Thomas Davis, I don't expect much out of Hogan...ever.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:04 PM

you can argue our punt coverage sucks ass.. :jc:


Yeah for real. I think we may have the worst ST in the league. I mean our ST may even be worse than our run defense which is plain scary. And to add to it our LBs are dropping like flies which is not helping ST in any way shape or form.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:00 PM

After 5 games, these are the top PR's (by avg. yards) in the league:

(1) Arenas (KC) 16.3 yds 37(long) 14 yds.(avg. w/o long)
(2) Peterson (ARI) 15.9 yds 89(long) 8.6 yds.(avg. w/o long)
(3) Sherels (MIN) 15.2 yds 53(long) 11.4 yds.(avg. w/o long)
(4) Sproles (NO) 14.9 yds 72(long) 5.3 yds.(avg. w/o long)
(5) Brown (PIT) 14.6 yds 41(long) 12 yds.(avg. w/o long)
(6) Cribbs (CLE) 12.8 yds 43(long) 9.4 yds.(avg. w/o long)
(7) Jones (HOU) 12.1 yds 79(long) 7.4 yds.(avg. w/o long)
(8) Ginn (SF) 11.8 yds 55(long) 9.1 yds.(avg. w/o long)
(9) Edelman (NE) 11.7 yds 18(long) 10.9 yds.(avg. w/o long)
(10) Bess (MIA) 11.4 yds 22(long) 8.8 yds.(avg. w/o long)
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(25) Edwards (CAR) 5.7 yds 17(long) 5.0 yds.(avg. w/o long)

and... Opponent punting average for those teams...

(2) CAR 38.7(avg)
(3) NOR 41.9(avg)
(11) ARI 43.6(avg)
(14) MIA 44.5(avg)
(16) CIN 45(avg)
(17) MIN 45.1(avg)
(20) SF 46.1(avg)
(21) PIT 46.1(avg)
(24) CLE 46.6(avg)
(28) NE 48.5(avg)
(31) KC 49.9(avg)
(32) HOU 50.3(avg)

Opponent Net punting rank:

(2) CAR 34.0 yds
(3) NO 36.9
(4) ARI 37.1
(5) MIN 38.9
(7) SF 38.4
(11)MIA 38.9
(13)CIN 39.8
(14)PIT 40.0
(15)CLE 40.2
(18)NE 40.9
(26)KC 42.1
(30)HOU 42.4


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