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certainly Manning had questions but nothing even remotely like what The Golden Calf of Bristol had coming out.

I don't really think the media or the internet forums do much to influence the actual talent evaluators in clubs that are passing judgment on players... and The Golden Calf of Bristol is one many teams passed on for a reason.

So u're saying that the Broncos didn't bow to the pressure from the media to start Tim?

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This has 5 pages.. I don't care what dalton or green are doing, I'm not a bengals fan. If some of you like them so much join their bandwagon and quit stroking their cocks on a panthers board.

Oh and last a checked the roty didn't come with a free playoff berth. Think cam or dalton will give 2 poos about an award when their sitting at home watching other teams play in the postseason..

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So u're saying that the Broncos didn't bow to the pressure from the media to start Tim?

lol, no, they bowed the fact the team fugging blew and Tim might just give them a spark to bring them to a win. Fox isn't going to cave this early.

if the media had anything to do with it he'd have been starting weeks ago...

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I believe if we end up 2-14 or 3-13 Cam wouldn’t even want ROTY..He wants to win above all. Its too early to make a final judgment but Dalton is playing good. Its about wins and if Dalton keeps racking them up he’ll get ROTY. I would have no problem with that because I honestly think Cam would see it the same way if we keep losing.

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Me too, but the problem with this is the Panthers gave away their 2nd rounder in order to draft another quarterback, :( So picking Dalton was out.

hurney's the trade master.

if he wanted to pull it off, he could have. :D

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the bengals weren't struggling?

how is 4-12 not struggling?

they also lost two of their starting WRs and arguably their best cornerback... I mean yeah their defense was still okay, but so was ours...

many people thought the Bengals would be in a race for Luck this year. They were considered to be the most disfunctional team ever, ready to explode at any moment. Instead they're contending... and Dalton has played a part in that.

None of that should take away from how Cam has kept us in games, but Dalton deserves credit for helping right that sinking ship.

Who are the many???

The Bengals wouldn't have been in the market for a QB if Carson wasn't acting like a two year old.

Anyway, take nothing away from Dalton but he didn't win the first game. The back up QB did. And it was won convincingly...So that is saying a lot. Dalton only really has one win over Cam..

sidenote...NFLN is re-airing the Lions/49ers game now. I guess they will be showing it all the way to the end. I wonder if the coaches are miked???Talk about highligh of the game..

Anyway, back to the topic. Did u say ur defense was better last year??? were they better cause the offense wasn't that good or were they actually better? also the Bengals beating the Panthers because of the defense and everyone thought that they d-team would tighten up come real season...So much for that thought.

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lol, no, they bowed the fact the team fugging blew and Tim might just give them a spark to bring them to a win. Fox isn't going to cave this early.

if the media had anything to do with it he'd have been starting weeks ago...

But..but...but...The Golden Calf of Bristol...I thought everyone said he isn't accurate?

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Who are the many???

The Bengals wouldn't have been in the market for a QB if Carson wasn't acting like a two year old.

Anyway, take nothing away from Dalton but he didn't win the first game. The back up QB did. And it was won convincingly...So that is saying a lot. Dalton only really has one win over Cam..

sidenote...NFLN is re-airing the Lions/49ers game now. I guess they will be showing it all the way to the end. I wonder if the coaches are miked???Talk about highligh of the game..

Anyway, back to the topic. Did u say ur defense was better last year??? were they better cause the offense wasn't that good or were they actually better? also the Bengals beating the Panthers because of the defense and everyone thought that they d-team would tighten up come real season...So much for that thought.

the backup QB scored as many points as Dalton did. When Dalton was in, the offense had 13 points to 14 when the backup was in. Just so happens that Benson broke off a 49 yard run with under 2 minutes to go that sealed that game, it wasn't all that convincing before that point (20 to 17). So I don't know why you say he deserves more credit than Dalton for it, but that doesn't matter.

RE: Bengals not in the market for a QB, not sure what you mean. People thought they were going for Luck *this year*, the year that, you know, that Palmer was refusing to play for them. At draft time they knew they had to get a QB in case Palmer stuck to his word, they liked Dalton and wanted to upgrade other positions in the first so it worked out for them. Now, they're unlikely to be in position for Luck and who knows if they want them. This is quite a bit different from where people thought they'd be given the FAs they lost etc...

Back to the Panthers. Our defense was better last year, yes, but it wasn't all that great... injuries wrecked us this year I think, but reality is what it is.

But..but...but...The Golden Calf of Bristol...I thought everyone said he isn't accurate?

that is what people say, dunno how true it is. Sometimes the unknown seems like a better option than the known. There's more than accuracy to being a QB too, maybe Fox and co thinks his other skills will make up for that.

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If we had played the Bungles schedule we'd have them in spades.

This is true. The Bengals have played a lighter sched that we have. But the big difference is Dalton has the #1 D in the league in his locker room. If cam had that D we would be 5-1 or 6-0 and winning each game by 17 or more. Bottom line. Cam is far more Dynamic than Dalton with a huge upside compared to Dalton. Now I am not knocking Dalton he looks to have moxy and some skills. He looks to have a bright future ahead of him. But he is not even in the same hemisphere as Cam Newton.:patriot:

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Because he's getting better each week, he has 3 games with over 100% QB rating versus only 1 by Cam, including 2 back to back, the past 2 weeks and ..........he's winning. He's a better game manager so far. He's also proven to be a better 4th quarter QB so far. Andy Dalton has had 4 game winning drives in the 4th quarter which all directly resulted in wins versus 1 by Cam. It's not even close.

Yards mean poo. Wins are what matters. 4th quarter points and drives to seal the game is what makes a QB stand out and a hero.

This is a poor assessment of the situation. Again if Dalton had our D he would not even be in those games. You say he is a better game Manager thats great. How often do game managers win the super bowl? Not much. It is not close at this point in history Cam is far superior to Dalton. It is humorous that one would even suggest they are that close.:iamwithstupid:

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HA HA HA 10 wins they still have to play the Steelers and Ravens twice. That's 4 losses. So you are suggesting that they will beat everyone else which includes at Tenn and Houston at Home no way. I will give you Seattle- Rams-Browns and Cards as possible wins so I see them at 8-8 at best more likely 7-9:nono::nono:

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Cam has better supporting cast and physical attributes than Dalton. Your posts are not in the realm of realism, we get it, you are a fan of Newton.

Moron better supporting cast! Dalton has the best D in the league in his locker! Get a clue!:nono:

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