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Remember the anti-IDF rant that Fiz "educated" us on?


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#16 Matt Foley

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:51 PM

maybe New Jersey shouldn't have stolen the little sliver of land in the middle of all the people who hate them...


Maybe they had it first.

#17 Inimicus

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:57 PM

Israel exists in a tiny sliver of land. Do you think that their "take no crap" attitude might be shaped by that fact?

Imagine if New York, Pennsylvania and Maryland/Delaware all hated New Jersey. Not to mention Ohio, Virginia, and all of New England. If you were New Jersey, and one of those states kept firing rockets into what little land you had by comparison, how would you react?

If we had been slowly stealing their land I guess we wouldn't have much to bitch about.

Israeli settlements in the West Bank should be condemned as an act of war in the same way Saddam's army in Kuwait was.

#18 natty

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:01 PM

Replace that rocket with a plane. Does it piss you off then? How many deaths at the hands of a terrorist pisses you off...1...2..20...500?

Let us know what number works for you to give a s**t.


And to think people don't like the idea of a women president because they always think emotionally.

#19 Panthro

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:04 PM

Israeli settlements in the West Bank should be condemned as an act of war in the same way Saddam's army in Kuwait was.


this.

#20 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:27 PM

If we had been slowly stealing their land I guess we wouldn't have much to bitch about.

Israeli settlements in the West Bank should be condemned as an act of war in the same way Saddam's army in Kuwait was.



No, its not the same. Its not even similar.

Jordan launched an assault against Israel. Israel responded and took the West Bank. So Israel did not launch a war of aggression and take the West Bank. They just didn't give it back after the war was over. In truth, I don't think Jordan really wanted it back.

I do believe that the West Bank settlements were a mistake on Israel's part, but they are still not even close to what Saddam launching an unprovoked war of agression against Kuwait.

#21 Fiz

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:32 PM

wait a minute, let me get this straight....

The idf said they didn't do this? Oh well, poo, guess it didn't happen!

#22 Fiz

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:47 PM

but seriously, i want to come right out with an apology for israel. I guess i should have waited to criticize them until after their kneejerk denials bore the seal of their ministry of defense.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:49 PM

Seems the IDF investigated...you know...the thing where they actually interview people involved and potential witnesses...not the hanging of dissenters from bridges and lightpoles...




And further...on the UN school bombed...which I ended up being right about...



Fiz goes out of his way to believe a bunch of terrorists...


four to five were terrorists? rock solid info!

#24 Fiz

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:50 PM

four to five were terrorists? rock solid info!


We didn't kill x number of innocent civilians. we killed y number!

#25 Matt Foley

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:51 PM

No, its not the same. Its not even similar.

Jordan launched an assault against Israel. Israel responded and took the West Bank. So Israel did not launch a war of aggression and take the West Bank. They just didn't give it back after the war was over. In truth, I don't think Jordan really wanted it back.

I do believe that the West Bank settlements were a mistake on Israel's part, but they are still not even close to what Saddam launching an unprovoked war of agression against Kuwait.


this

#26 mmmbeans

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:53 PM

How many deaths at the hands of a terrorist pisses you off...1...2..20...500?

Let us know what number works for you to give a s**t.


seriously, it's not the tactics which people die by that makes death abhorrent.

#27 Fiz

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:54 PM

seriously, it's not the tactics which people die by that makes death abhorrent.


no, that's determined by the color of the skin/religion of the people doing it.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:56 PM

We didn't kill x number of innocent civilians. we killed y number!


well.... somewhere in between, really. We're not sure. 2 of them were babies, so we're pretty sure that they weren't terrorists.... 4 were men, so we're going to assume that they were..... and one was about 14 but he was a quadriplegic soooooo..... yea, lets just assume that he was a terrorist too.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:57 PM

no, that's determined by the color of the skin/religion of the people doing it.


actually, less that than our political standing with the party committing the atrocities.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 05:02 PM

I have been there, and Israelis and Arabs have basically the same skin color.


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