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Posted 28 October 2011 - 12:44 PM

I think most people are mad that this recession was created by a parasitic financial sector that continues to thrive due to government handouts and favorable legislation largely won by flat out bribery, but yes it's all about black people taking out loans.



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huh? i need to go back and look at the del interject race metric in any tinderbox thread on issues near and dear to him.

the lenders and the lendees are culpable. politicans should be as well but they will skate or get re elected. by whites.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 02:20 PM

im willing to bet the schools who tuition keeps going up have poor sports programs.

You would be wrong, at least in NC. UNC and State are hiking their tuition rates the most.

Could very well be right in other states, but I don't care enough to look those up.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 03:37 PM

You would be wrong, at least in NC. UNC and State are hiking their tuition rates the most.

Could very well be right in other states, but I don't care enough to look those up.


State has one of the worst sports programs in the ACC...

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:50 PM

They turn a profit on their sports program and are one of the top 50 earning programs in the NCAA.

My point was just that they and Chapel Hill are by far the largest athletics programs in the state at public universities both in following and in revenue, yet they also have the highest tuition hikes.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 07:27 PM

They turn a profit on their sports program and are one of the top 50 earning programs in the NCAA.

My point was just that they and Chapel Hill are by far the largest athletics programs in the state at public universities both in following and in revenue, yet they also have the highest tuition hikes.


Yeah gotcha.

It is hard to believe that UNC lost so much in state funding this year, but then still shelled out 2.7 million dollars to pay a scumbag coach off. Athletics can definitely help with funding, but it is a very small amount.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 10:18 PM

for fun, without googling, what % of the BCS schools have made a profit in the last year per their athletic budget?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:53 AM

Total athletic budget? I'd imagine single digits.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:58 AM

I was thinking around 8 or so. It's 14(yes, I double checked).

14 out of 120. Title IX, while needed when it came out, has unintended consequences as far as costs go.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:46 PM

I was thinking around 8 or so. It's 14(yes, I double checked).

14 out of 120. Title IX, while needed when it came out, has unintended consequences as far as costs go.


The way that the schools count "costs" associated with the athletes is total bullshit though. The school counts the cost of tuition and room and board as a loss on each of their athletes---- and we all know that most schools just pile their athletes into a communications, african american studies, or sawahli class hardly worth the cost of tuition.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 07:57 PM

I was thinking around 8 or so. It's 14(yes, I double checked).

14 out of 120. Title IX, while needed when it came out, has unintended consequences as far as costs go.


Wouldn't surprise me if Title IX eventually leads to the end of athletics at many universities not in top 10 conferences.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 08:42 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if Title IX eventually leads to the end of athletics at many universities not in top 10 conferences.


The universities are going to have to cut back on the number of sports programs that are offered.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:52 PM

imo sports take away from all levels of education, from middle school to college

they're a distraction, expensive, likely to get kids hurt, and expose them to hazing rituals

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 05:48 AM

First of all, the line between college athletics and college academics needs to be drawn a little thicker so people stop confusing the two.

College sports programs are there to do 2 things: create income and at the same time provide a huge tax credit for themselves as a liability (the athletic programs that "lose" money).

College academics create income based upon tuition, grants, federal and state dollars, endowments, etc.

Second of all, those who believe colleges are "losing" money with their sports programs are using the same accounting firms and the same financial institutions who manage Wall Street and everyone else. Remember how all but a couple teams in the NFL claimed they were losing money and used it as an excuse to propagate the lockout? You don't think colleges use the same accounting methods? Of course colleges are not going to claim their athletic departments are creating a revenue stream- if they did so they'd lose boosters, sponsorships, etc.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 07:25 AM

The universities are going to have to cut back on the number of sports programs that are offered.


Title IX