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#1 Happy Panther

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 08:13 PM

I am a capitalist and can't wait until I am firmly in the 1%.

Peter Schiff walks into Manhattan and PWNs these losers.

Awesome

A week ago today, I spent the afternoon visiting the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations in lower Manhattan. I brought a film crew and a sign that said "I Am The 1%, Let's Talk." The purpose was to understand what was motivating these protesters and try to educate them about what caused the financial crisis. I went down there with the feeling that much of their anger was justified, but broadly misdirected.




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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:42 PM

I am a capitalist and can't wait until I am firmly in the 1%.


I am a high school football player and can't wait until I am a first round draft choice.

I play in a band and I can't wait until I'm signed to a major label and have a platinum album.

I own a small business and I can't wait until it becomes a national chain worth billions.

Everybody join in!

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:46 PM

Really what was that Steinbeck quote again? Something about temporarily embarrassed millionaires or something?

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:53 PM

Stupid people are usually the loudest unfortunately. For every informed protester there are probably two or three retards like some of those in the video. That guy is full on retarded.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:57 PM

The reality is that many of these "reforms" that paved the way for so much outsourcing were lobbied for by corporations either directly or indirectly through special interests. They give money to candidates for favors in legislation, that's how it works. It's a bogus corporatocracy not a capitalistic society that we live in. Whether or not there are "good" corporate players is irrelevant so long as the corrupt are allowed to dictate policy.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 10:05 PM

The reality is that many of these "reforms" that paved the way for so much outsourcing were lobbied for by corporations either directly or indirectly through special interests. They give money to candidates for favors in legislation, that's how it works. It's a bogus corporatocracy not a capitalistic society that we live in. Whether or not there are "good" corporate players is irrelevant so long as the corrupt are allowed to dictate policy.

The main question that this brings us to is this. Is it the fault of the lobbyists for the corporations for doing what they were paid to do, or the job of the politicians who were elected and paid by the people to represent us?

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 10:16 PM

love it. total moronic, sound bite fed jackass.

"i stumbled into my wealth and im an idiot". lol


and the idiots who respond that they DO NOT want low prices. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAH


Please...SHUT UP AND GO SHOWER

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 10:38 PM

The main question that this brings us to is this. Is it the fault of the lobbyists for the corporations for doing what they were paid to do, or the job of the politicians who were elected and paid by the people to represent us?


It's the fault of both for perpetuating the system and for putting the system in place that allows for campaign finance contributions, special interest lobbying and corporate human rights laws.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 10:53 PM

Recently there has been a lot of discussion about capitalism in the news and among activists. Many people are taking stances on either one side of the issue or the other, but very few are stopping to consider the fact that capitalism may have never even existed. This concept may come as a surprise to some, but it shouldn’t. If you examine most of the words used to describe our society such as democracy, freedom, representative or capitalism, you will find that these words are simply abstract euphemisms which are used to disguise the true nature of authoritarian civilization.

We are supposed to believe that we are represented by people who don’t represent us, that we are somehow “free” in a situation where we are constantly being exploited and ordered around. Much in the same way that we are told we are “free” in our personal lives, we are also told that we are “free” in our financial lives. The word “democracy” is used to make our oppressive political system seem more benevolent and legitimate, while the term “capitalism” is used to give the impression that we operate under a “free market” economy. Obviously, neither are true.


Capitalism itself has been defined many different ways, but the rights to private property, as well as private production of goods and a free market economy, cross over between all of these definitions. Currently none of the above rights are being fully respected in the United States and most Western countries that claim to be capitalist. Sure, at face value it may seem like these ideas are prevalent in Western culture, but when you take a look at property taxes, government subsidies for big corporations and the mountain of red tape faced by entrepreneurs it should become painfully obvious that capitalism has probably never existed in this country; perhaps it has never even existed in this world.

The system that we have in place today could more accurately be called fascism, mercantilism or cartelism. These words describe a system where the elite use their power in government to control the rest of society, as well as prop up their businesses by eliminating competition through the political system. The monolithic corporations that now exist would have never been able to grow into what they are today without the help of government intervention and protection. Without government intervention, the infamous lobbyists in Washington would become obsolete because there would no longer be any ability to manipulate the marketplace through bribes or coercion. Government intervention and protection is the primary means by which the world’s biggest corporations have devastated their competition and developed massive monopolies.

In a system of true free market capitalism there would be absolutely no need for a government, because any “service” that is apparently provided by the government can actually be better handled by entrepreneurs. In today’s system we don’t have independent businesses working on a level playing field, instead we are left with a few massive corporations and cartels that use their power in government to maintain their monopolies and stomp out their competition. This is the very definition of fascism -- the merger of state and corporate power -- this is the dominant economic system in the world, and has been for centuries, in various different forms.

In fascist countries there is really no line between government and big corporations; both types of organizations use legislative power to establish and maintain monopolies. When it comes down to it, both of these organizations rely on violence and threats of violence as a means of getting their way in the marketplace. Essentially, the government is an organization that is used to justify violence, from the military to the tax collectors to the police. This constant use of force is said to be keeping us safe, but in reality it just instigates further conflict and makes our lives more chaotic and violent.

For any authoritarian government to stay in power they must convince their subjects that they are providing them with safety and security. This is the typical public relations scheme of every oppressive government; the idea that they are providing worthwhile services. This is sadly a myth. The government doesn’t provide services; they monopolize services. In other words, they make sure that they are the only organization that can provide schools, hospitals, roads and other utilities to the public because this creates a situation where the people are completely dependent upon the state for survival. This doesn’t mean that a government is the only type of organization that is capable of providing these services. In fact, community groups and entrepreneurs would most likely do a far better job at providing these services because they would actually be judged by the integrity of their work, unlike politicians and corporations.

Oftentimes when the government is providing a service they are actually doing a very poor job, but no one can really tell the difference because there is no competition to judge it by. If you look at the goals that government organizations apparently set out to achieve, you will see they always fail miserably. Therefore, if the government is claiming to provide maximum safety and security, it would be safe to assume that this goal will not be achieved. In the most authoritarian countries where the “leaders” claim to have established an extreme level of security, things are actually very unsafe and citizens in these kinds of countries live in constant fear. Just because there is a very high level of control does not mean that there will be adequate safety or order within a society. The most controlling type of government in today’s world is without a doubt a fascist one.

Fascism is defined as an authoritarian system of government that has strong nationalist and corporatist values. Fascist governments often have strong military cultures and use force to establish themselves as authority figures, both at home and abroad. A Fascist government never refers to themselves as such; to do so would be to admit that they run unjust and oppressive regimes. Fascism exists in many economic systems that claim to be capitalist or communist and can develop even in countries that call themselves democratic.

In fact, most fascist “leaders” tell their people that they live in a free and democratic society so the public takes their grievances to the polls, instead of taking them into the streets where they could actually make an impact. Currently one of the most fascist nations on Earth is called the “Democratic Republic of North Korea”. Likewise, the government in America and the European Union are some of the most fascist regimes in history, yet they still claim to operate under systems of “capitalism” or “democratic socialism”. Like anything else in politics and economics, it’s a word game that’s designed to disguise the truth.


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Posted 28 October 2011 - 10:59 PM

how many millionaires in the US did NOT graduate from college?

in democracy, there is ALWAYS a winner and a loser. occupy in large part is the by product of a generation of the self esteem movement. everybody gets a trophy and everybody gets a present when you go to SOMEBODY else's birthday party.

well, here ya go.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 12:09 AM

The main question that this brings us to is this. Is it the fault of the lobbyists for the corporations for doing what they were paid to do, or the job of the politicians who were elected and paid by the people to represent us?



Cahoots....takes 2 to tangle. Yes, blame both. Hell, many of them are ol' buddies. But people don't study backgrounds before voting these crooks in the first place. So what can ya really do...other than bitch? lol

Me personally, I'm not all for the Capitalism Vs Syndicalism aspect of the movement...my stance is...fug corporate socialism..end the FED type of stuff. I don't see that lazy guys.. that's not looking for work.. after 99 weeks is the real big issue...in fact, many of those so called "lazy folks" may not have the time and gas money to blow looking for jobs he or she can't find. Trillions of dollars being loaned out, housing bubbles, big government society control is more damaging I think. Much bigger problems.

As far as low wages and all that goes, that's expected..especially when there is super high unemployment and low demand.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 12:16 AM

All Peter Schiff needs to do to be educated on the problem is look at the criminal history of his family.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 12:20 AM

Job exportation, there is nothing much you can do about it...it's their businesses. I agree with ending all those departments of waste. It's time to get things fix....and stop living beyond our means as a whole.

So, it's time to have responsibility and accountability...everybody. Sadly..we will stay divided and point fingers.

I have to mention.. the fact that people say the entire top 1% earned their wealth is hilarious.

Edited by necroplasm, 29 October 2011 - 02:12 AM.


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 08:48 AM

I am a high school football player and can't wait until I am a first round draft choice.

I play in a band and I can't wait until I'm signed to a major label and have a platinum album.

I own a small business and I can't wait until it becomes a national chain worth billions.

Everybody join in!


99th percentile is around $400k which isn't out of reach. Unfortunately the inflation rate of that number is big.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:39 AM

i agree that the anger felt by Occupy is authentic, but the mission itself is a category error


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