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#16 pstall

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:53 AM

All Peter Schiff needs to do to be educated on the problem is look at the criminal history of his family.


i have railed on Schiff many times in the tinderbox and his methods.

which website told you about his family's criminal history?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:34 AM

The criticism and lack of respect for OWS is proof that protests like these are pointless and the only way to create change is through violence and revolution. These people need to arm themselves and kill the right people. Standing around in the cold isn't going to change anything.

When the 1% are scared for their safety, then we'll see changes. Until then it'll just be more of the same. And that's not to say people should go kill anyone with wealth, but it's not to hard to find who is buying the politicians and which politicians are being bought. Those people would be the ideal people to target at first.

#18 pstall

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 12:24 PM

our society is too lazy to change. we want to be told what to believe, think, feel, eat and to watch.
its far easier to put on your Columbia gear, grab a tent and your laptop and "protest".

why not take a job and work your way up or run for office and THEN make some changes?

wouldn't that really and truly change the system?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 12:39 PM

Real changes have to come from the people. Running for office as a walk-on is pointless and wont get you anywhere considering how corrupt the system is. Everything these days is "neener neener neener" vs. "neener neener neener" from all sides...and that goes for Schiff as well as just about everyone at OWS. There is a much bigger picture to this reality that people are not tapping into, thus the continuous arguing over trivial and distractive points/ideas. Bottom line is we need a major overhaul of the system. Our current structures are divisive, antagonistic, and based on the illusion of seperation. From the words of Chris Rock...at least black people actually knew when they were slaves. Life as we know it needs to change dramatically or this left brain prison of a society will continue to run itself in the ground.

Money has got to go.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 12:39 PM

our society is too lazy to change. we want to be told what to believe, think, feel, eat and to watch.
its far easier to put on your Columbia gear, grab a tent and your laptop and "protest".

why not take a job and work your way up or run for office and THEN make some changes?

wouldn't that really and truly change the system?


The issue is that no one believes in the system anymore, most people don't really believe that a candidate that isn't already bought and paid for has any realistic shot of winning an election, this is even true on the smaller elections and local levels.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 02:24 PM

i have railed on Schiff many times in the tinderbox and his methods.

which website told you about his family's criminal history?


Website? It's common knowledge, his father is in prison.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 03:01 PM

Website? It's common knowledge, his father is in prison.


i think now its common knowledge.

the Occupiers are no dif than Peter's dad no? he stood up for what he believed and the govt that so many slobber over did him in.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 03:04 PM

The issue is that no one believes in the system anymore, most people don't really believe that a candidate that isn't already bought and paid for has any realistic shot of winning an election, this is even true on the smaller elections and local levels.


so people protest for a system they dont believe in? osmosis is just going to happen?

im sorry but im not buying a bulk of this "movement". its contrived on more levels than is being reported.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 03:07 PM

So your next door neighbor is part of the 1%. Worked his ass off and started his own restaurant in NoDa. His wife is a VP of finance at Wells. Last year they made $435k as a household. With three kids in college and no financial aid they are living well but not overly so. But they are happy and the future looks even brighter to the point that they will both be able to retire at age 55 and are considering buying a 3 bedroom in Southern Shores in a couple of years. He drives a Lexus and she drives a BMW SUV.

While there are some tax benefits to owning a restaurant the couple pay just about as much tax as a family can.

What do you want these people to be afraid of excatly?

What do you want from them?

What do they owe you?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 03:33 PM

the self esteem movement bearing fruit.

i will say it again, CEO pay is out of control. so is what celebs make per film and athletes per season.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 03:51 PM

what 20 million for adam sandler to make a film where he stars as his twin sister is absurd?

who'd have thunk it.

but nobody seems to be occupying hollywood demanding jobs

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:04 PM

So your next door neighbor is part of the 1%. Worked his ass off and started his own restaurant in NoDa. His wife is a VP of finance at Wells. Last year they made $435k as a household. With three kids in college and no financial aid they are living well but not overly so. But they are happy and the future looks even brighter to the point that they will both be able to retire at age 55 and are considering buying a 3 bedroom in Southern Shores in a couple of years. He drives a Lexus and she drives a BMW SUV.

While there are some tax benefits to owning a restaurant the couple pay just about as much tax as a family can.

What do you want these people to be afraid of excatly?

What do you want from them?

What do they owe you?


You're taking this 1% thing to literally, it's nothing but a figurative message.

Collectively, their adjusted gross income was $1.3 trillion. And while $343,927 was the minimum AGI to be included, on average, Top 1-percenters made $960,000


http://money.cnn.com...ndex.htm?iid=EL

But that's not really the issue, it's the inequality of the situation that the majority of people are railing against.

From 1979 to 2007, average household income for the nation's top 1% more than tripled, while middle-class incomes grew by less than 40%, according to a new report from a research arm of Congress.
While those at the top have seen their incomes soar over the past three decades, middle-class and lower incomes have stagnated, the report by the Congressional Budget Office found.

"Over the past three decades, the distribution of income in the United States has become increasingly dispersed -- in particular, the share of income accruing to high-income households has increased, whereas the share accruing to other households has declined," the CBO said.
For the top 1% of the population, average inflation-adjusted household income grew by 275%. The rest of wealthiest fifth of the population, not including the top 1%, saw household income grow by 65% during that time, faster than the rest of the population, but "not nearly as fast as for the top 1%." For middle-class earners, it was a different story.

Household income grew by just under 40% and the poorest fifth of the population saw their incomes rise by just 18% in a little less than 30 years, according to the study, which was based on IRS and Census data.
During that time, income ballooned at the top of the spectrum and government policy did less to redistribute wealth, the CBO found.
"The rapid growth in average real household income for the 1% of the population with the highest income was a major factor contributing to the growing inequality in the distribution of household income between 1979 and 2007," the report said. "Shifts in government transfers and federal taxes also contributed to that increase in inequality."


http://money.cnn.com...ncome/index.htm

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:16 PM

Its a skewed distribution, of course the average is that high.

What these people think are the 1% probably boil down to a few thousand households.

We can add lack of math comprehension to the occupiers.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:19 PM

Its a skewed distribution, of course the average is that high.

What these people think are the 1% probably boil down to a few thousand households.

We can add lack of math comprehension to the occupiers.


Like I said it's a figurative message. It's a message against the super wealthy and corrupt, not against the lowest members of the literal 1%. It's symbolic, nothing more. Also, like I said earlier, a message against the exponentially increasing economic wealth gap.

Edited by Floppin, 29 October 2011 - 04:23 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:46 PM

I am a high school football player and can't wait until I am a first round draft choice.

I play in a band and I can't wait until I'm signed to a major label and have a platinum album.

I own a small business and I can't wait until it becomes a national chain worth billions.

Everybody join in!


I have a camera and can't wait to own my own porn mag. (female only).


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