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Gingrich says atheists can’t be trusted, disregards 50 million secular Americans


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#1 Cat

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 07:46 AM

“Does faith matter? Absolutely,” Gingrich said. “How can you have judgment if you have no faith? How can I trust you with power if you don’t pray?” He continued, “the notion that you are endowed by your creator sets a certain boundary of what we mean by America.” Gingrich said that Americans should value religion first, above morality and knowledge.


http://www.secular.o...cular-americans


Imagine the uproar if someone said that about Jews, Christians or Islam. I can't find this on any major news site but maybe I over looked it.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 07:59 AM

the bolded part isn't a quote but rather the author's opinion.

I don't agree with newt, but I think the author might be taking what he said to an unwarranted extreme.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:01 AM

Why is it that as a registered Republican white Christian man it seems like everyone in the public eye who supposedly represents me makes me wish I wasn't any of those things?

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:04 AM

yeah, the line is drawn at Christians and Jews...:lol:

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:07 AM

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if that opinion is wrong. To say that someone who doesn't follow religion is incapable of having moral standards and objective judgement is the height of arrogance and also complete bullshit.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:09 AM

the bolded part isn't a quote but rather the author's opinion.

I don't agree with newt, but I think the author might be taking what he said to an unwarranted extreme.


I'm trying to get more of what he said but can't find it anywhere.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:17 AM

“the notion that you are endowed by your creator sets a certain boundary of what we mean by America.”


You can be an atheist and still believe that you had certain rights 'endowed by your creator'. Does believing that simply being born and being human endows one with certain rights somehow cause a person to fall outside of this 'certain boundary' because of his/her lack of belief in xyz deity?

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:22 AM

the bolded part isn't a quote but rather the author's opinion.

I don't agree with newt, but I think the author might be taking what he said to an unwarranted extreme.


“Well, I think if the question is: Does faith matter? Absolutely,” said Gingrich. “How can you have a country which is founded on truths which begin, we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights? How can you have the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 which says religion, morality and knowledge being important, education matters. That's the order: religion, morality and knowledge.”


Is that better? :)

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:23 AM

thanks for clearing that up.

Newt has been saying poop like this for decades.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:39 AM

Meanwhile, back on Earth, Newt is morally bankrupt.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:46 AM

I was quite well endowed by my creator thanks very much.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:47 AM

"There's no question at times in my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate."

What a quote

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:55 AM

It's quotes like these that have kept him at the front of the Republican Party all these years. Why would he mess with success?

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:01 AM

It's quotes like these that have kept him at the front of the Republican Party all these years. Why would he mess with success?


has he been at the front? Seems like he was toward the front during the clinton years, disappeared, came back doing some kind of charity work, and now he's toward the back of the front again.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:08 AM

Politics on his part, trying to appeal to the evangelical parts of the party. Its not like he was going to get the atheist vote anyway, so it is probably correct political strategy on his part to ignore them.


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