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The agendas at hand here go much further than "the administration."

Agreed, Obama is a pawn too, a believing pawn.

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I'm laughing at the take over of their protest. Strong convictions....

You act like this doesn't happen to every serious movement in American history. If the establishment didn't try to shape these movements to fit their will they would be shooting themselves in their collective foot. It's in their best interest to fug it up. You don't think the Tea Party got man handled by the PTB? You're damn right it did, and it was easier too, so many "Patriots" who didn't really see the true evils of our coporatocracy's corruption.

It's a delicate tight rope they walk. The idea is to use any and all opposition movements to forward their own agenda, whilst demonizing dissent. They have to be careful to not cross the tipping point though.

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real protest doesn't get embraced by the establishment unless they want the unrest. An opportutiny was taken to hijack OWS and that is what we are seeing now. talk about astroturf.

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No actual counterbalance protest gets embraced by the establishment, that's just silly. It would be self destructive to "embrace" a movement that seeks to change your status quo. Character assassinations, air time for fringe elements and controlled opposition to plummet public opinion of the opposition, these are the tactics of those in power. When that doesn't work, incite the riots and crack some heads. Make people resistant to protest for fear of their own safety.

While the establishment may want mild unrest to distract from other issues, such as it's mounting war games with Iran or to further legislation to continue to infringe upon our rights, full scale unrest is never in their best interest.

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Damn the live stream went down...that sh*t was starting to make my blood boil.

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No actual counterbalance protest gets embraced by the establishment, that's just silly. It would be self destructive to "embrace" a movement that seeks to change your status quo. Character assassinations, air time for fringe elements and controlled opposition to plummet public opinion of the opposition, these are the tactics of those in power. When that doesn't work, incite the riots and crack some heads. Make people resistant to protest for fear of their own safety.

While the establishment may want mild unrest to distract from other issues, such as it's mounting war games with Iran or to further legislation to continue to infringe upon our rights, full scale unrest is never in their best interest.

Any means necessary.

You can deny it all you want and anybody else, this President wants to change America and will do it anyway (they) can.

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Wait, you think Obama is fighting the system? Or are you in the "Obama is a socialist" camp? You've kind of lost me here. What agenda do you believe Obama is a pawn of exactly?

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yes, a socialist take over of the world, but you have to get America out of the way first.

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Damn the live stream went down...that sh*t was starting to make my blood boil.

i had to step away from it...

back up now

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:lol: this is what the protesters want and the administration.

yep.. lock step with the administration

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yep.. lock step with the administration

If you read my posts I am not blaming the original OWS, I am blaming the take over, that was when the violence started.

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I wonder why the Tea Party didn't get beat down?

It did. It got beat down from an anti-government movement into a movement to elect Newt Gingrich and suck off the Koch brothers. Through media manipulation and infiltration, just like OWS. They use different tactics because it's different people. The right wing protest became about racism, because that is what they can use against the right. The left wing protest became about anarchist hippies, because that's what they can use against the left.

This poo could not be more clear.

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