By far one of the most retarded and false arguments you will hear on the Huddle. Everything you just posted is wrong.
We don't need more possessions. We need to stop turning over the ball. Do you read all the way across? You see the 17th by turnovers and 24th in interceptions per drive?
We don't score enough points. We don't win our close 4th quarter games. We don't put the games away. None of what you are talking about matters when our offense isn't capable of finishing off a team late in the 4th quarter. We go for as much as 25 minutes in the second half without scoring in some games, and our defense is keeping the score within 1, so our O can tie or win. And they don't do it.
And btw, you are wrong once again because our defense is ranked 11th in time of possession.
They're rushing on us all right, but the defense isn't on that field very long. It's the offense. Too bad most of that time is spend on penalties due to holds. Primary reason for that being not getting the ball out of your hands fast enough.
The easiest math is the one that's not required.
See this stat? :http://www.teamranki...yards-per-point
Everyone except the Patriots and Pittsburg ranked below 15th are either tied or losers. All the top 10 teams in this category have winning records, with the exception of 1 which is tied. We're ranked 21st in efficiency and because of that we lose. It comes from the 4th quarter. What makes it worse is that we are 21st in efficiency while playing against the worst defenses in the league.
I said that if we took better care of the ball our point per possession would go up. But the fact is we are still 6th in the entire NFL in points per possession. If we took better care of the ball maybe we would be 1st. But 6th in points per possession is pretty damn good and proves that when we have the ball we are scoring and that you can hardly blame the offense for our troubles. Again that is not to say our offense can't get better. Just that it has been pretty darn good so far.
It is not surprising that you don't seem to understand that time of possession has nothing to do with the number of possessions each team gets. :nonod:
The facts are we are currently 29th in total possessions. That is why we only average @23PPG. Basic math says that if you are 6th in points per possession and TD per possession, if you have more possessions (and certainly better than 29th in the league) than you will score more points.
And as mush as you want to say our defense is doing its job. Scroll down the same page to the defensive statistics.
We are 30th in defensive yards per possession, 31st in points per possession, 31st in TDs per possession, 29th in forced punts per possession, 27th in defensive TOs per drive, and are 29th in drive success rate. All that leads to a 31st ranking for our defense in DVOA.
Oh yeah. And our defense has managed all that with the least amount of defensive possessions in the league at 78. So you have an offense and defense that are last or near the bottom of the league in total possessions. Why is that?? Because our offense is sustaining drives and our defense can't stop our opponents. Thus reducing the game time and the possessions. Pretty simple and plain!!
It doesn't take a genius to figure this out PFFL.
Oh and please stop trying to tie YPP into an exclusively offensive statistic. It isn't true. It is a statistic for some gamblers to use to give a generalization of how certain teams are performing as a whole. No one except you views it as an offensive or defensive efficiency scale. It is used because it encompasses so much more than just the offense. It is mainly used by a gambler to create a score predictor for the game. It is also not a very good tool in college football for gamblers because it is so misleading. It is there to try to eliminate some of the guesswork and make betting more mathematical. In other words it simplifies things.
Cincy is 28th in yards per poss, 20th inn PPP, 23rd in TD per possession, 27th in punts per drive. Yet their YPP is through the roof.
And before you say "Yeah but Cincy doesn't turn the ball over so..." That in some ways actually makes those statistics look even worse because they aren't turning the ball over and still not scoring efficiently on a per possession basis.
I know you want me to be wrong so bad but the facts are right there in front of you. You just don't want to see them.
Edited by teeray, 11 November 2011 - 01:00 PM.