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#361 teeray

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:04 PM

Since when was Blackmon a slouch on fade routes?
He is one of the best.


Not necessarily saying he is a slouch. But there is a big difference in the NFL between being 6-1 215 and being 6'4 230 in those types of situations.

I am not trying to denigrate Blackmon. He is going to be a good one. I view it as sort of a 1A, 1B type situation. Both are going to be good players.

Edited by teeray, 18 November 2011 - 02:07 PM.


#362 Johnny Kilroy

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:06 PM

I'm just saying one of the concerns of Blackmon's shouldn't be the fade route/red zone production.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:10 PM

My opinion is we should use every available draft pick on the defensive side of the ball despite needs at WR and OT.

But between Jeffery and Blackmon I am torn. I think Jeffery would be a better fit and would compliment Smith, Naanee, Lafell, and Gettis nicely.

Jeffery is a beast in the red zone and is virtually unstoppable on the one on one fade route. Something we do not have right now on our offense but I don't think he has the ability to get enough separation to be a true #1 WR in the NFL But I think as a #2 or slot receiver he would be huge for this offense.

Blackmon is sort of the opposite. I think he can be a #1 receiver and is a big playmaker but does he fit with our personnel? Right now we have a lot of speed guys (granted not as good as Blackmon) but not a "hands" guy who can make catches in a crowded space, i.e. the red zone.

i kinda envision Jeffery as a Keyshawn Johnson in his prime and Blackmon as a Desean Jackson.

So either one would be an upgrade and I would be super happy if we drafted either one. I do think that Jeffery would be a better fit with our current personnel but I don't think he is a #1 receiver but a perfect compliment to the WRs we currently have. But should we use a high draft pick on a complimentary player? Blackmon has the ability to replace Smith eventually as a #1 receiver but I don't think he will help us as much in the one area that it is needed most, the red zone.

Big plays and moving the ball from 20 to 20 hasn't been the issue this year (for the most part). It is when we get to the red zone that we are struggling. I think Jeffrey changes that. But again do you use a high draft pick on him?? I don't know.

Just my opinion.

i agree....or at least would more if it weren't for RT being such a giant Posted Image

otah's heart isn't in it and bell has only shown that he is outmatched.

lameness at RT combined with how important it is to have someone solid there makes RT more of a necessity in the draft than i would like.

the rest of the draft and offseason can focus on defense and special teams, though.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:16 PM

Not necessarily saying he is a slouch. But there is a big difference in the NFL between being 6-1 215 and being 6'4 230 in those types of situations.

I am not trying to denigrate Blackmon. He is going to be a good one. I view it as sort of a 1A, 1B type situation. Both are going to be good players.


i bet they said the same thing about smitty when he ran fade routes. i think its more so about ball placement from the qb.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:18 PM

i know this is slightly off topic but what do you guys think of us getting joey harrington as the number 3 qb? i mean i dont really trust jimmy clausen holding a clip board, i think harrington has been there before and is better suited

just a thought...

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:27 PM

i bet they said the same thing about smitty when he ran fade routes. i think its more so about ball placement from the qb.


Smitty isn't great on fade routes. I love Smitty to death but that isn't one of his strong suits.

But I do agree that where the QB puts the ball is just as important as the receivers ability to go get it.

And Garcia is/was a pretty pooty QB.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:29 PM

Anyone of these will make me happy.

1. Matt Kalil OT
2. Justin Blackmon WR
3. Alshon Jeffery WR
4. Morris Claiborne CB
5. Dre Kirkpatrick CB

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:36 PM

Okay so if smitty gets injured or lose a step then who is our number one? I'm just saying we only seen a glimpse of Gettis and i'm not so sure if he can be a true number one. I also know for sure that Lafell and Nanee can't be.:nono:


Ok so if Blackmon gets hurt or sucks who is our number one? Trading him and hoping a rookie replaces him is retarded no matter how you look at it.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:38 PM

Blackmon definitely!

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:40 PM

Gettis did have decent numbers with Clausen throwing him the ball but most of those yards came in two or three games other than that he didnt stick it out much. I like Gettis too, but yall are overrating him. Rivera said in training camp that somebody needed to step up and take the number 2 spot before he even got hurt so he wasnt sticking out then either. At the end of the day we still really dont know what we have in him.


Gettis got most of his yards when Clausen wasn't at QB. Even Smith sucked with Clausen at QB, too early to say what Gettis can't be based on playing with Jimmy

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:44 PM

I am just adverse to using a top 5 pick on o-line or interior defense. Not because there aren't great players available but there tends to be greater value in later rounds at those positions.

Unless there is a guy like Suh or something I just assume use those high picks on other skill positions and this year it should be on the defensive side of the ball.

But if we get Kalil, or a DT, or a WR I am not going to go cry into my pillow :lol:

Edited by teeray, 18 November 2011 - 04:39 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:54 PM

I still say we should draft Denard Robinson with our top 5 pick and then slowly convert him into a WR

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:58 PM

I still say we should draft Denard Robinson with our top 5 pick and then slowly convert him into a WR


Lol......

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 03:06 PM

I am just adverse to using a top 5 pick on o-line or interior defense. Not because there aren't great players available but there tends to be greater value in later rounds at those positions.

Unless there is a guy like Suh or something I assume use those high picks on other skill positions and these year it should be on the defensive side of the ball.

But if we get Kalil, or a DT, or a WR I am not going to go cry into my pillow :lol:

i'm not crazy about it either, but when your franchise RT pulls a ferry collins on you and decides his heart's just not in it it kind of puts you in a corner.

i for sure don't want to draft a DT that early or really at all unless there is a suh type DT in there. i'd rather get one in FA that already has experience.

don't really want a WR either. we've got enough talent for a while. there are bigger needs elsewhere.

really i'm not crazy about drafting an LB or a CB that early either. i feel like if we don't get kalil we should be trading down and considering the success of recent QBs and how sucky some teams still are in that department there might be a late first round picking team that is in need desperate enough need of a franchise QB that they might be willing to trade up for one. i think there will be a few QBs who will go in the first round so teams will be willing to trade up. rookie cap will make it easier to pull off.

hopefully we can find someone ATL dumb who would be willing to trade a few early picks for a couple years so they can get their QB or WR or whatever.

regardless of what we pick, though, i won't be all that upset. we got the most important piece the franchise needed this year.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 03:07 PM

The only thing I am saying if we are picking in the 2 to 3 range and Matt Kalil is on the board then we should take him. But to be honest I don't think we pick there by the end of the season. But if we are and Kalil is gone Justin Blackmon will become an option. But I think we will be in the top 5 to 10 range just been honest.


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