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#46 davos

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 05:56 PM

and new ways to lose every week. what's left?


The Kerry Collins way circa 97

#47 realtriumph

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 05:56 PM

9 of 23, 96 yards, 0 tds, 2 picks

Let me know when you figure out what game that was dumbass


Who cares what game it was? Doesn't change today's reality.

We had one of the best ranked offensive lines all year in pass protect. We're ranked 8th overall for the year. In the past 3 weeks we have slipped down to 19th.

Why cause our gimmick offense has been figured out. And Cam Newton holds on to the ball too much. A QB gets sacked when he doesn't get rid of the ball.

And since I know where my O-line stands...it's not hard to figure out what's going on.

#48 bleys

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:01 PM

Newton got pressured pretty quick today.. hard for me to believe he was back there holding onto the ball for 10 seconds when pressure was there in 3..

I have no idea why our TEs weren't used today.. maybe Olsen fumbling and dropping key passes had something to do with it..

I didn't see Newton as a bad QB today as much as I saw the whole offense shitting the bed.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:01 PM

Who cares what game it was? Doesn't change today's reality.

We had one of the best ranked offensive lines all year in pass protect. We're ranked 8th overall for the year. In the past 3 weeks we have slipped down to 19th.

Why cause our gimmick offense has been figured out. And Cam Newton holds on to the ball too much. A QB gets sacked when he doesn't get rid of the ball.

And since I know where my O-line stands...it's not hard to figure out what's going on.


You do because you made it your basis for ranting...

I'll throw out another good one: 12-25 153 yards 4 sacks

#50 CamYouDigIt

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:05 PM

You're right. I'm sure it was the real beastly, 17th ranked Titans defense, against one of the best offensives line in the NFL.

That's what it was. Part of it was the O-line. Most of it was Cam Newton.

When Smith has a bad day. Cam has a bad day.

legedu: 8 75 9.4 0 Long: 18

LOL. So hard to figure this one out. It's been like this all year. But it's Cam that makes Smith look good. I forgot....:rolleyes:


did you not see Steve Smith's stats the past 2 years?

#51 Frizzy350

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:06 PM

Who cares what game it was? Doesn't change today's reality.

We had one of the best ranked offensive lines all year in pass protect. We're ranked 8th overall for the year. In the past 3 weeks we have slipped down to 19th.

Why cause our gimmick offense has been figured out. And Cam Newton holds on to the ball too much. A QB gets sacked when he doesn't get rid of the ball.

And since I know where my O-line stands...it's not hard to figure out what's going on.


troll on dipshit.

#52 footballisasport

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:19 PM

He didn't have more time. He gets the ball out quicker. You guys have not seen this all year? You get pressured more when you hold on to the ball longer too! It works both ways.

Cam doesn't get it out quick. Which is why our red-zone offense sucks. Which is why we always rush Cam in the red-zone. Why we lead the league in holding penalties. Which is why Steve Smith only has 4 TD's and nearly 1000 yards.

Do you guys never ask yourself why Cam Newton only looks good in yards and long balls when it comes to passing? STEVE SMITH!

He's bad in everything else:

Cam is now last in sacks.
Nearly last in picks.
Bad completion percentage.
First in holding penalties

He's not ready for the NFL. Neither is our offensive style with Cam.

The ESPN talking heads were saying Cam was making Smith look good and you, real Panthers fans, agreed. Bought into the lie. Shame on you. Let it be known.

Panther fans are disloyal to proven vets. And credit unproven rookies before they credit their veteran and proven players. This is what's wrong with this fan base.


Yeah, u sound like u're ready for Luck to join the Panthers.

#53 footballisasport

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:27 PM

Actually, today was a reality check of how bad ur team really is when the offense gets shut down. Ur defense can't even help out and shut down the opposing team offense so FGs will determine the game. No instead it's business as usual giving up 30 plus points like they have almost every game since the beginning of the season. How is that playing better.

For anyone to believe that the defense had a better than usual day today really are completely fixated on the offense and nothing else with this team.

Today is the reality of what everyone has been saying from the beginning of the season. To blame Cam is to continue to over look the real issue of this team, it's defense.

#54 realtriumph

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:30 PM

Yeah, u sound like u're ready for Luck to join the Panthers.


Yes because I'm just like every other idiot who keeps wanting us to draft rookie QB's.:rolleyes:

fug Luck.
fug Cam.
fug Clausen.
fug AE.

fug every damn one of them. Everybody knows the chances of hitting a good QB as the #1 draft pick is like 5%.

Last QB not named Manning drafted #1 to be worth a damn: John Elway 1983

If Marty knew history....

#55 realtriumph

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:41 PM

BTW...John Fox is winning with The Golden Calf of Bristol. 4-5 now.

I didn't want them both gone. One would have been enough. Either Jake or Fox.

Fox learned how to bench QB's quickly now after they start losing. We lose :(

#56 rico6

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:29 PM

Stop double posting you little poo.

#57 HoFBound90

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:16 PM

Or we could stop being insanely critical of a team who is missing every defensive leader pretty much and is being run by rookie qb and coaches. Sure I am just as mad as every other fan but as soon as the game ends I can put it in perspective. Everyone can keep bitching but for me, I will not officially judge the team overall until next season. The rest of this year is to find who the keepers are and who aren't. And for cam to develop.

#58 realtriumph

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:31 PM

Or we could stop being insanely critical of a team who is missing every defensive leader pretty much and is being run by rookie qb and coaches. Sure I am just as mad as every other fan but as soon as the game ends I can put it in perspective. Everyone can keep bitching but for me, I will not officially judge the team overall until next season. The rest of this year is to find who the keepers are and who aren't. And for cam to develop.


What does our defense have to do with our offense not being able to score more than 3 points on the 17th ranked defense in the NFL? They only scored 3 points because the defense got them a turnover.

Yeah and next year? You wanna "develop" another rookie? You can't develop them if they don't work for it. The only way to know if he's any damn good in the first place is to have a veteran QB that's at least average to beat him for the starting spot. He had to beat Clausen. Lol.

#59 AnalyzeThIs#28

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:45 PM

Anyone see the titans game after their bye?

#60 realtriumph

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:46 PM

Actually, today was a reality check of how bad ur team really is when the offense gets shut down. Ur defense can't even help out and shut down the opposing team offense so FGs will determine the game. No instead it's business as usual giving up 30 plus points like they have almost every game since the beginning of the season. How is that playing better.

For anyone to believe that the defense had a better than usual day today really are completely fixated on the offense and nothing else with this team.

Today is the reality of what everyone has been saying from the beginning of the season. To blame Cam is to continue to over look the real issue of this team, it's defense.



Yes I know my defense is average. It has been average all year. My offense is an inconsistent atrocity. Because an average offense scores 24 points on an average defense with EVEN turnovers. When my team is -1 for the game an average offense scores 30 points on a slightly below average defense. That's expected.


It's not great. But it is in line with what is expected. What is not expected is for an average offense to only score 3 points against an average defense.

They should at least score 20 points with a -1 turnover margin because a turnover is worth 4.8 points. My offense scored 3 points. That means they are one of the worst offenses in the league. That must mean they are not even close to average.

And they are. 21st in offensive efficiency before today. Today...they were dead last. They will fall right next to Indianapolis for the most inefficient offense in the league.

That's why we can only beat teams with more inefficient offenses than us: Jaguars and Washington. Indianapolis and Tampa Bay are the only two teams this team can beat....maybe.

A touchdown is worth 7.
A turnover is worth ~4 points: -4 for the offense, + 4 for the other team.

So do the math. Our offense has been poo all year long unless it faces one of the worst offenses in the league. Not defense. But offense. Makes no difference where your defense ranks if your offense is almost last in inefficiency. Makes no difference how many yards you get.


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