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It's a rebuilding and a learning season for all. Calm the fuck down

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Freeman and the Bucs have clearly slid back with a coach on the hot seat. Drew brees won't be able to play forever, and Atlanta has no draft picks for 15 years for Julio Jones. We're bound to slide into an NFC South title sometime in the next 7 years or so.

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Technically, injuries is the fan's excuse. Rivera made it clear today he didn't want to talk about injuries because he didn't want to make any excuses, which I respect.

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Injuries is a real problem. Lack of depth is a real problem.
ftfy

along with a bunch of other things.

it's a clusterf*ck of a season.

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I shouldn't say just depth but overall talent of the roster. Even if you have a few fill in scrubs playing terribly if the rest of your team is extremely talented you'll be able to compensate for it.

If you look at your 53 man roster with zero injuries, and it's one of the most talented rosters in the league, stacked with playmakers, you'll can lose a few key guys throughout the year and still make the playoffs. Or at the very least be in the hunt.

The Ravens just faced a very tough Bengals team with a winning record (BTW we haven't beat a team with a winning record since the 2009 season). They had their leader and HOF LBer Ray Lewis standing on the sidelines in street clothes. But they're one of the best run organizations in the league and are STACKED with talent. So they still play well and pull out a win and are now leading their division. Their fans don't have to sit around and make excuses.

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Teams with less talent and more injuries have had more success winning games. Including our very own 2004 team (?).

If you want to say 'poo happens' fine, but I agree with Rivera, it's just an excuse and one thing does not cause another.

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Honestly, I think people realize all this already. They just feel the need to put positive spins on their team no matter how obvious it is that they have a serious lack of talent. Maybe they feel it's their duty as fans or just a way to make them feel better about having another losing season. Who knows.

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teams have figured newton out.

your move newton

Newton was forcing the ball because that it what the coaching staff wants him to do this year. Whenever teams drop back in coverage like TEN and DET did, Cam should punish them on the ground. Notice his 2 rushing TDs?

I hope that the coaches take Cam's leash off next year.

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Honestly, I think people realize all this already. They just feel the need to put positive spins on their team no matter how obvious it is that they have a serious lack of talent. Maybe they feel it's their duty as fans or just a way to make them feel better about having another losing season. Who knows.

It's a combination of factors, to single out any one for why a team wins or loses is stupid. That's why all these reasons excuses facts or bullshit never tells the whole story and for any of us to argue any one of these points as the reason is just wanting to argue.

But can we agree that all black unis would give us 16-0 year after year?

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You're right, it's a whole number of factors. Would zero injuries help? Sure. Easy schedule? Yup. 6 months worth of offseason to implement your new scheme? Of course. Every bounce of the ball and questionable call going your way? Absolutely.

But the overwhelming most important factor is having a top end front office that stacks your team with talent year in and year out. A roster overflowing with talent puts you in the hunt every year. This is the #1 factor in having continued success by a huge margin. This is something we obviously don't have yet so many people bring up all these other factors but can't admit to this.

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Couldn't be that long until someone threw out "injuries" and "no full offseason" I guess. excuses excuses excuses

I really don't see why it's so hard for people just to admit that we're poorly managed resulting in a weak roster and we're losing because of it.

Or why we put these artificial pointless labels on seasons just as some kind of an excuse to why it's perfectly OK that we're terrible.

Last year we sucked but it's OK because it was a "tear down the roster" season.

This year we suck but it's OK because it's a "rebuilding" season.

Next year if we suck, it's OK because.. umm let me think.. oh I got it.. it's a "transition" season.

2013 still suck ass? well umm it's a "learning" season. But hey, we're still a good well run franchise everybody. Calm down!

Exactly.

Bad teams allow themselves to be held to lower standards because of injured players. The good teams.. well.. don't.

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