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[chknwing]

Man so many people pissed off. I'm happy. Carolina has scored 225 points this year. They scored 196 all of last season. They had 17 total touchdowns last year. They have 25 this year. They average 400 yards of offense per game compared to 258 last year. Thats a significant difference. The most intriguing stat, carolina had 95 punts last season, they have only 42 this year. Rivera is doing a hell of a job rebuilding this offense, I cant wait to next year to see how he rebuilds the defense.

[rayzor]

great perspective.

just want to look at this broken down to help it soak in.

Carolina has scored 225 points this year. They scored 196 all of last season.

They had 17 total touchdowns last year. They have 25 this year.

They average 400 yards of offense per game compared to 258 last year.

carolina had 95 punts last season, they have only 42 this year.

sweet.

Rivera is doing a hell of a job rebuilding this offense, I cant wait to next year to see how he rebuilds the defense.

100% agreed.

wins would be great, but seeing this kind of improvement after 1 year is phenomenal.

can't wait to see what he can do with that defense next year, esp. w/ beason back.

[beckersteen]

We have two wins. I'm not happy. I don't care if we are rebuilding. This team lacks fundamentals. You know what I don't even feel like contin

[Proudiddy]

Okay, the reason we're pissed is b/c that has netted us the same amount of wins as that horrible team last year, lol.

Would you like to share the record amount of penalties and defensive statistics showing how historically bad our defense is now?

[rayzor]

losses suck, but if you're going to lose i'd rather it be the way we're doing it this year than last year because at least we know we had a chance and we know we have something to look forward to because this team is going to get better.

i've said it many times. once cam and this team start winning, it's going to be a long time before they stop winning.

it seems like the panthers have been caught up in an avalanche for a few years and it just keeps getting worse, but next year and going forward we will be the avalanche destroying everything in our path.

[beastson]

Cause we went from contenders to garbage in just 2 years. Now another year added

[Proudiddy]

losses suck, but if you're going to lose i'd rather it be the way we're doing it this year than last year because at least we know we had a chance and we know we have something to look forward to because this team is going to get better.

i've said it many times. once cam and this team start winning, it's going to be a long time before they stop winning.

it seems like the panthers have been caught up in an avalanche for a few years and it just keeps getting worse, but next year and going forward we will be the avalanche destroying everything in our path.

I would agree with you on this Rayzor, but it's actually the same thing as last year for me... Last year, if the other team scored we knew the game was over because our offense couldn't. This year, if our offense doesn't score 50 then we know we're gonna lose because the defense can't hold off the opposing offense, lol. It's fun to see Cam coming along and Smitty back to life, but it's just as frustrating knowing it's not going to be a win regardless of their efforts.

[rayzor]

I would agree with you on this Rayzor, but it's actually the same thing as last year for me... Last year, if the other team scored we knew the game was over because our offense couldn't. This year, if our offense doesn't score 50 then we know we're gonna lose because the defense can't hold off the opposing offense, lol. It's fun to see Cam coming along and Smitty back to life, but it's just as frustrating knowing it's not going to be a win regardless of their efforts.

it does seem like things have flip flopped since last year, but we are in a lot better shape than last year in that we know the direction we are going and who is going to be leading this team.

this year is the starting point for ron rivera's team. everywhere rivera has gone, his defenses has gotten better. this defense will also.

i have little reason to believe that this defense won't be able to get back to a level of respectability next year and i base that on several things.
1) the primary focus in the offseason was on repairing an offense that was last in the league last year and one of the worst of all times. the attention that was given to make the offense respectable again and maybe more respectable than it's ever been can be shifted to the defense.
2) rivera's forte is defense and he knows how to make one successful.
3) beason will be back. regardless of how good we should be without him in there, we aren't. his talent is needed for sure, but not as much as his leadership.
4) we'll have a full offseason ahead of us and that will
- help in getting people healthy
- allow us the opportunity to bring in talent
- give our youngest guys a chance to put some mass on their frames and get in better shape for the pros
- help all of our guys get more comfortable with the scheme and knowing their responsibilities

no reason to believe it until we see it. it takes a good bit of faith to feel good about next year but, imo, we have seen enough this year to have it.

[Humble Dew]

[TAZZ]

Storm clouds are always darkest before the sun shines through

Some fans see lemonds and turn sour
Other fans make lemonade

Time is on Rivera's side
All the positives on offense is a huge improvement
over the run offense that had Steve Smith mad enough to want to leave

Panthers are losing with an exciting offense that can score and try to win
without help from the defense

Last 2 seasons they lost with a run offense that did alot of 3 and outs ,trying to not lose the game
With a defense that showed up to play

Rivera is not going anywhere
J R sees the improvements and will give him 3 years

[CatMan72]

AND even in a loss Cam has been exciting to watch.

We have plenty to be thankful for.

[maddog]

I'm pissed bc I just don't understand the thinking of some fans, which Jerry must feel the same bc it unfolds every sunday. The Panthers are stacked with practice squad caliber players and 2nd stringers that are our starters. I'm tired of hearing we are rebuilding this year and next year will be the year. Yes our offense has a foundation to build upon but outside of Beason and CJ, our defense just plain sucks. Sure give McClain and Hardy some love but these other guys the heck with. I'm tired of watching Captain get burned, whether Gamble fans want to admit it or not he has given up some big key plays this year. Our safety position doesn't look any better! Talk about stats I would love to see how many missed tackles they have racked up or blown coverages. It's supposed to be THE Carolina Panthers versus the other team not our offense against the other team! I may not know every play in the book or can identify what coverage we are in at the drop of a dime, but I can definetly tell you won't fix much of anything if Hurney continues to evaluate talent!

[jtnc]

I'm pissed because we made no attempt at upgrading the spots that needed in to be, seriously? Captain fuging Munnerlyn is our #2 cb? We still have a safety that can't tackle, we still have horrible depth at offensive line, defense tackles that can't get any push at all. Fua? He looks WORSE every game.

[Herb]

Can't fix everything in one offseason (extremely short at that). Next year is our year without a doubt. If we aren't in the hunt for the playoffs and division title at this time next season than everyone has a right to call for heads to roll. But right now we're actually ahead of where I think everyone expected us to be. Our offense is way better than I ever would've thought. Chudzinksi and Shula were incredible hires. Cam was the draft pick of the decade and is going to be an elite QB for years to come. Rivera has things here going very well. It's not all perfect of course, but how can you expect it to be? Especially when we lost the heart and soul and most talented player of our defense in week one. The 49ers would not be where they are now without Willis. I'm excited for next season beyond words, but I'm still enjoying this season even with the losses. We are a fun damn team to watch when we have the ball. The defense is way behind, but I guarantee you it will be dramatically improved for next season.

[jtnc]

Who the hell keeps Munnerlyn as their #2 cb and not expect to have troubles?