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Why Get Pissed?

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Just looking at how our defense has trended:

2008 - 20.6 pts/gm; 331.2 yards/gm
2009 - 19.2 pts/gm; 315.8 yards/gm
2010 - 25.5 pts/gm; 335.9 yards/gm
2011 - 28.6 pts/gm; 374.8 yards/gm

I know all teams suffer injuries, but we've been hit at the core this year - losing probowl quality players like Beason & TD. Coach RR can talk all he wants about the next guy stepping up, but Beason & TD were 1st round picks for a reason. Unless you've got a Patrick Willis waiting in the wings (crazy thought) you won't find the talent in backups to come close to the quality of our starters. And while we didn't get to see Ron Edwards, we're obviously missing what was supposed to be a pretty good player at DT.

With one caveat, I like Hurney's approach for the near term. Draft well next year and we'll have a couple star core players and some developmental players to add to those returning from injury to give this team a shot in the arm. My one disagreement with Hurney on his stated approach is free agency - I wish we would add at least one significant free agent to supplement each of the next two drafts. With Gross aging, TD's return questionable, so-so secondary, Otah's health, etc., we just have too many needs to fix this team in one draft.
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[quote name='chknwing']Man so many people pissed off. I'm happy. Carolina has scored 225 points this year. They scored 196 all of last season. They had 17 total touchdowns last year. They have 25 this year. They average 400 yards of offense per game compared to 258 last year. Thats a significant difference. The most intriguing stat, carolina had 95 punts last season, they have only 42 this year. Rivera is doing a hell of a job rebuilding this offense, I cant wait to next year to see how he rebuilds the defense.[/QUOTE]

Because they have given up 286 pts.

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I try not to get mad about things I have no control over, but hey, we are emotionally wrapped up in this team. I had low expectations for this year to begin with, so as peeved as I have been, I haven't gotten very angry. We have been in every game except the Titans game, so that is more than I expected.

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[quote name='maddog']He may be having the best year of his career but looking back I myself am not impressed. As for shutting down Johnson I wouldn't call shutting him down with 5 receptions for 89 yards. Johnson's fantasy points last week may not hold much merit but that is a decent game. Yeah Fitz was held to 62 yards and Jennings had 55 so that wasn't to bad. My point was that he has given up big plays in key moments of the game. Both Rodgers and Stafford have a ton of weapons on offense and the with the defense we have who wouldn't go for easier options than what seems to be our best defensive back. Let's not forget those teams also had the running game working in their favor which took away some pass plays.[/QUOTE]

Looking back at the box score is deceiving. I'm pretty sure on the lone big play Jennings had, it was Pugh who gave it up, not Gamble. Same with Fitzgerald down the sideline against AZ. Johnson I'd have to go back and look, but I'm pretty sure he made him a non-factor. 5 touchdowns by Stafford, and none of them to Megatron means Gamble did his job, but no one else did theirs. But again, I'll have to go back and watch the DVR.

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Why am I pissed?
Besides a 2-7 record (and for the haters, loosing close is still loosing), this..

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/23/kevin-smith-chris-clemons-kealoha-pilares-win-nfc-honors/"]From PFT[/URL]

Lions running back Kevin Smith...have been named the NFC players of the week.

Smith was named the offensive player of the week [I]after a sensational outing in his first extensive game action in more than a year. Smith, who had played with the Lions the last three years but didn’t receive any offers in free agency this year, returned to the team this month and had a huge game against the Panthers: Smith had 140 rushing yards and two touchdowns, and added 61 yards and another touchdown receiving. It’s pretty amazing that this guy was available for anyone to pick up at any time, and no one did until midway through the season.[/I]

So this guy comes off the couch and blows us up, despite the fact that this defense has had more than half a season to get their collective azzes together.

And there are still posters who say "S**t happens. It's nobody's fault"..
That BS is getting thinner and thinner every Sunday.

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Pretty sure the correct word is loosening

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I think most are just pissed because if we just had even an bad to avg defense we would have won at least 6 more games. Last year we were frustrated with our offense and now the defense has taken its turn at being the worst in the league. I mean I can understand the anger.

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again, who is saying it's nobody's fault?

the defense screwed up. no one is saying they didn't (except for maybe pffl, but whatever...).

the defense is screwing up because they lost 3 starters. 2 of them are pro bowl caliber and you don't just go and throw someone in from your (or anyone's) bench and expect the same type performance. there's going to be a drop off. a significant one.

what can you do, though? crap happened that was unexpected. they did a lot to make the team better personnel-wise, esp. on offense and for the long term.

on defense they were counting on beason being the backbone of the defense (which he should have been) and having TD come back and play at a high level. they tried to hedge their bets by bringing in a couple LBs, one of them was a pretty respectable one (Gaither) and started off the season with LB being one of their deeper positions.

they may not have done everything that people wanted at DT, but to say they didn't address it is a fallacy. they brought in a solid vet who was known for his durability and they drafted 2 DTs with their 2nd and 3rd pick. they were planning on being able to use these guys in a rotation, but the DT that they brought in got hurt and put on IR...just like their two star LBs.

they've been struggling all year to compensate and it hasn't worked. odds were against them making it happen anyway with having a young team, new coaching staff, system, and a massive lack of offseason. those aren't excuses. those are realities.

they failed to make lemons into lemonade.

you want someone to blame...keep looking. maybe you'll find someone, but i guarantee you it won't make it any better for you. you're still going to be pissed. what do you want? heads to roll? that ain't going to happen, at least not right now and if they did roll it still wouldn't make things better right now. they'd still be losing right now and you'd still be pissed.

call them excuses or reasons or whatever you want, but there was crap that happened and the reality of the situation is that those things caused the defense as it is right now to suck. since the defense sucks so bad, we are losing games.

here's the thing. this isn't the end. this is the beginning of a rebuild that no one thought was going to be pretty considering the direction we were going and the shape we were in after the much needed demolition last year. next year will be better.

if you don't think that matters or you don't believe it, then your helpless and the best thing for you to do is just walk away because the alternative is just going to be you being perpetually pissed over something that is far beyond your control and over things that you won't get the satisfactory answer(s) you are hoping for.
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[quote name='boo7382']Pretty sure the correct word is loosening[/QUOTE]
:lol:

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I'm pissed because I go to every game and we lose pretty much every one. Pissed because 2 wins means no prime-time games for me next year. Probably all 1:00 Sunday. And no playoffs obviously.

Less pissed than last year though. At least there is some entertainment value.

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[quote name='Happy Panther']I'm pissed because I go to every game and we lose pretty much every one. Pissed because 2 wins means no prime-time games for me next year. Probably all 1:00 Sunday. And no playoffs obviously.

Less pissed than last year though. At least there is some entertainment value.[/QUOTE]just having cam will bring a prime time game or two.

the dude made the cover of the first NFL magazine ever. regardless of how poorly this team plays right now, as long as cam still looks good and people are hyping his potential he'll probably be good for a couple prime time games. they want to get that guy out front. his presence sells ad spots and gets people watching.

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[quote name='rayzor']just having cam will bring a prime time game or two.

the dude made the cover of the first NFL magazine ever. regardless of how poorly this team plays right now, as long as cam still looks good and people are hyping his potential he'll probably be good for a couple prime time games. they want to get that guy out front. his presence sells ad spots and gets people watching.[/QUOTE]

Given that Jackosnville got two home MNF games i am assuming the league has assured JR that we will get ours. Will it be home or away though.

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