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#31 Snake

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:31 PM

I think most are just pissed because if we just had even an bad to avg defense we would have won at least 6 more games. Last year we were frustrated with our offense and now the defense has taken its turn at being the worst in the league. I mean I can understand the anger.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:51 PM

again, who is saying it's nobody's fault?

the defense screwed up. no one is saying they didn't (except for maybe pffl, but whatever...).

the defense is screwing up because they lost 3 starters. 2 of them are pro bowl caliber and you don't just go and throw someone in from your (or anyone's) bench and expect the same type performance. there's going to be a drop off. a significant one.

what can you do, though? crap happened that was unexpected. they did a lot to make the team better personnel-wise, esp. on offense and for the long term.

on defense they were counting on beason being the backbone of the defense (which he should have been) and having TD come back and play at a high level. they tried to hedge their bets by bringing in a couple LBs, one of them was a pretty respectable one (Gaither) and started off the season with LB being one of their deeper positions.

they may not have done everything that people wanted at DT, but to say they didn't address it is a fallacy. they brought in a solid vet who was known for his durability and they drafted 2 DTs with their 2nd and 3rd pick. they were planning on being able to use these guys in a rotation, but the DT that they brought in got hurt and put on IR...just like their two star LBs.

they've been struggling all year to compensate and it hasn't worked. odds were against them making it happen anyway with having a young team, new coaching staff, system, and a massive lack of offseason. those aren't excuses. those are realities.

they failed to make lemons into lemonade.

you want someone to blame...keep looking. maybe you'll find someone, but i guarantee you it won't make it any better for you. you're still going to be pissed. what do you want? heads to roll? that ain't going to happen, at least not right now and if they did roll it still wouldn't make things better right now. they'd still be losing right now and you'd still be pissed.

call them excuses or reasons or whatever you want, but there was crap that happened and the reality of the situation is that those things caused the defense as it is right now to suck. since the defense sucks so bad, we are losing games.

here's the thing. this isn't the end. this is the beginning of a rebuild that no one thought was going to be pretty considering the direction we were going and the shape we were in after the much needed demolition last year. next year will be better.

if you don't think that matters or you don't believe it, then your helpless and the best thing for you to do is just walk away because the alternative is just going to be you being perpetually pissed over something that is far beyond your control and over things that you won't get the satisfactory answer(s) you are hoping for.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 01:51 PM

Pretty sure the correct word is loosening

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 02:08 PM

I'm pissed because I go to every game and we lose pretty much every one. Pissed because 2 wins means no prime-time games for me next year. Probably all 1:00 Sunday. And no playoffs obviously.

Less pissed than last year though. At least there is some entertainment value.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 02:27 PM

I'm pissed because I go to every game and we lose pretty much every one. Pissed because 2 wins means no prime-time games for me next year. Probably all 1:00 Sunday. And no playoffs obviously.

Less pissed than last year though. At least there is some entertainment value.

just having cam will bring a prime time game or two.

the dude made the cover of the first NFL magazine ever. regardless of how poorly this team plays right now, as long as cam still looks good and people are hyping his potential he'll probably be good for a couple prime time games. they want to get that guy out front. his presence sells ad spots and gets people watching.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 03:05 PM

just having cam will bring a prime time game or two.

the dude made the cover of the first NFL magazine ever. regardless of how poorly this team plays right now, as long as cam still looks good and people are hyping his potential he'll probably be good for a couple prime time games. they want to get that guy out front. his presence sells ad spots and gets people watching.


Given that Jackosnville got two home MNF games i am assuming the league has assured JR that we will get ours. Will it be home or away though.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 03:06 PM

Given that Jackosnville got two home MNF games i am assuming the league has assured JR that we will get ours. Will it be home or away though.

depends on who we're playing.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 03:20 PM

Home is
Dallas
Giants
Raiders
Chargers
Rams


I could see Dallas being prime-time.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 03:24 PM

Home is
Dallas
Giants
Raiders
Chargers
Rams


I could see Dallas being prime-time.

or chargers...but i doubt many people really care about the chargers much less the former coaches going against their former team angle.

btw...thanks for finding that. i posted the we were going to be playing next year at home and away but i can't remember where and my search function sucks.

can you post that real quick or at least link or quote it?

thanks.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 03:57 PM

Better that than the past 2 seasons


so, we suffer thru a bad season and get Cam as a reward.

wonder which top 5 draft pick we will recieve next year. good trade off

foxies 7-9 teams always left you wanting more and then getting a middle of

the pack draft pick.....I'll take the past two seasons.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:01 PM

or chargers...but i doubt many people really care about the chargers much less the former coaches going against their former team angle.

btw...thanks for finding that. i posted the we were going to be playing next year at home and away but i can't remember where and my search function sucks.

can you post that real quick or at least link or quote it?

thanks.


Yeppers

http://www.johnnyroa...future_nfcs.htm

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:08 PM

cool. thanks again.

looking at it we play @ denver.

fox vs. carolina
The Golden Calf of Bristol vs. newton

that has MNF hype all over it.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:49 AM

Can't wait. Our schedule is much more interesting next year.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 11:12 AM

i can't wait to see what this team looks like next year.

easier schedule plus a healthier and more experienced team with whatever additions that will come in the offseason should/could make for a very good year.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 11:35 AM

again, who is saying it's nobody's fault?

the defense screwed up. no one is saying they didn't (except for maybe pffl, but whatever...).

the defense is screwing up because they lost 3 starters. 2 of them are pro bowl caliber and you don't just go and throw someone in from your (or anyone's) bench and expect the same type performance. there's going to be a drop off. a significant one.

what can you do, though? crap happened that was unexpected. they did a lot to make the team better personnel-wise, esp. on offense and for the long term.

on defense they were counting on beason being the backbone of the defense (which he should have been) and having TD come back and play at a high level. they tried to hedge their bets by bringing in a couple LBs, one of them was a pretty respectable one (Gaither) and started off the season with LB being one of their deeper positions.

they may not have done everything that people wanted at DT, but to say they didn't address it is a fallacy. they brought in a solid vet who was known for his durability and they drafted 2 DTs with their 2nd and 3rd pick. they were planning on being able to use these guys in a rotation, but the DT that they brought in got hurt and put on IR...just like their two star LBs.

they've been struggling all year to compensate and it hasn't worked. odds were against them making it happen anyway with having a young team, new coaching staff, system, and a massive lack of offseason. those aren't excuses. those are realities.

they failed to make lemons into lemonade.

you want someone to blame...keep looking. maybe you'll find someone, but i guarantee you it won't make it any better for you. you're still going to be pissed. what do you want? heads to roll? that ain't going to happen, at least not right now and if they did roll it still wouldn't make things better right now. they'd still be losing right now and you'd still be pissed.

call them excuses or reasons or whatever you want, but there was crap that happened and the reality of the situation is that those things caused the defense as it is right now to suck. since the defense sucks so bad, we are losing games.

here's the thing. this isn't the end. this is the beginning of a rebuild that no one thought was going to be pretty considering the direction we were going and the shape we were in after the much needed demolition last year. next year will be better.

if you don't think that matters or you don't believe it, then your helpless and the best thing for you to do is just walk away because the alternative is just going to be you being perpetually pissed over something that is far beyond your control and over things that you won't get the satisfactory answer(s) you are hoping for.


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