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Just say NO! to drafting a CB in the 1st.


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#11 Cat'sGrowl

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:31 PM

Gilmore has really taken that next step this year. I wasn't his biggest fan comin into this year, but man, the guy has been truely a
shutdown guy this year. He's only a Junior, I could see him staying and being a guaranteed top 10 guy next year unless his play drops off.

Dennard is another one I really like. Nfldraftscout has him pegged as the best CB in this year's draft.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:36 PM

Gilmore has really taken that next step this year. I wasn't his biggest fan comin into this year, but man, the guy has been truely a
shutdown guy this year. He's only a Junior, I could see him staying and being a guaranteed top 10 guy next year unless his play drops off.

Dennard is another one I really like. Nfldraftscout has him pegged as the best CB in this year's draft.


Yeah I have heard of Dennard, just haven't seen him play.

I guess it all depends on where we pick. If we are anywhere from like 4-7 and Mo Claiborne is there take him. If Kalil is there (doubtful) select him, and then draft a CB in the 2nd.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 06:56 PM

I agree with the op, that why I don't have cb as a priority entering the draft. Well that and I think Hogan will be very good. We need to add more depth/talent to the DL, and LB crew with our early picks.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 06:59 PM

Obviously it could just be talk, but assuming the coaches really do like who we have at DT, and assuming there isn't a huge stud to take there early in this draft class, then why would we draft DT early?

I think CB and OLB are larger needs in some ways than DT when it comes to youth anyway. We are already so young at DT...

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 07:20 PM

Many analysts aren't even sold that Claiborne is the best CB propsect in this class. To say he's better than PP is well...hype.


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maybe they said that last year but Claiborne now has pretty much unanimously solidified himself as the #1 defensive player in the draft.

There are a number of very good fringe first/second round LB prospects in the draft and a number of very good fringe first/second round WRs as well. Also just because those CBs you posted have nice grades doesn't mean they will be the difference makers that this defense needs. The top CBs in the league who are true difference makers (Revis, Bailey, Woodson) were all top 15 picks.

Edited by dc6738549, 01 December 2011 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2011 - 07:41 PM

Again, team sport. Our "team" sucks. We need many picks and depth. Same as last year.

This is why I was against drafting anyone in the top slot last season. We need depth and help at a lot of positions. I was all for trading down last year and that remains the same this year.

For a team that needs so much help, we have no third rounder.

Turning two picks into three would be a great move for the first two rounds

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 08:31 PM

It's always easy to say we need to trade down, but it's rarely that easy.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 08:43 PM

It's always easy to say we need to trade down, but it's rarely that easy.


Yeah, I think that would be a smart move on our part especially if we miss out on Kalil and Mo. But it's not always easy.

Many analysts aren't even sold that Claiborne is the best CB propsect in this class. To say he's better than PP is well...hype.


Woah, didn't see this post. I have no idea what these "analysts" are saying but from I have seen, Claiborne is a better CB than Peterson. He possesses better pure coverage skills. Isn't that the number one thing you have to look for when looking at a CB? Peterson is just a better athlete.

Mo is also a ball hawk.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 09:05 PM

this weekend will end most of the college football season until bowl games a month from now.

Much film will be viewed and more info forthcoming. The "experts" will have no games to watch so it is film and evaluation time. We will start hearing much more by mid Dec.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:12 PM

Address the front 7. Get pressure on the QB and our Secondary instantaneously looks better. Address the CB position. Add very legitimate potential to it-but don't waste a 1st rounder on it. I could also list a handful of decent veteran CB's that should be available via Free Agency if you would like me to do that, also. Or, I could make mention of Hogan's potential. There are plenty of reasons that taking a CB in the first round is a wasted pick. Patrick Peterson went at 5 last year. We are currently sitting at 5. Is Morris Claiborne the prospect Peterson is? No.

Face it folks. We had our sexy pick last year. We aren't in line for another one this year. It's going to be a boring first round. Accept that. It's for the good of the franchise.


the difference between Peterson and Claiborne is that people were mostly hyping Peterson last year because of his measurables instead of actual corner play