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#16 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 06:49 PM

I am not any one party, but libertarian is the closest one for me.

I hate, hate, hate, what the two parties have done for this country.


Three would be worse.

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 08:59 PM

Three would be worse.


Yep. It would be another Democrat or Republican party that would cater to some special interest. It would be full of idiots like Epistaxis too.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 09:38 AM

Or Fiz.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 09:55 AM

unaffiliated - because they all are FOS

#20 Epistaxis

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 12:01 PM

Yep. It would be another Democrat or Republican party that would cater to some special interest. It would be full of idiots like Epistaxis too.


You sunuva...

Eh, you're right.

Can't argue with jase on this one, but I have to be honest and admit I didn't know that neocon twerps were jumping ship to try and join our ranks.

Can't figure out why. We don't like the chickenwarhawking and the onward Christian soldiers crap so what gives?

#21 engine9

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 03:30 PM

You sunuva...

Eh, you're right.

Can't argue with jase on this one, but I have to be honest and admit I didn't know that neocon twerps were jumping ship to try and join our ranks.

Can't figure out why. We don't like the chickenwarhawking and the onward Christian soldiers crap so what gives?


Libertarians have a spectrum they cover, just like the other parties.


Zod would call it salad-bar Libertarianism :D

#22 mmmbeans

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 03:36 PM

Speaking of Libertarianism, I'm currently reading this...

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it's farking excellent.

#23 ItsNotGonnaBeAlright

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:20 PM

ugh.... declaring parties.....

that's still in fashion? everyone still hasn't realized that morons in greater numbers only equal a larger mass of stupid?

Libertarians have the right ideas though. It'll be interesting to see what member manages to pervert them for their own personal gain. And then it will be terrifying to see what the next incarnation of liberal is after power swings in the Neo-Con favor.

By the way, Heinlein, fantastic writer.

#24 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:42 PM

ugh.... declaring parties.....

that's still in fashion? everyone still hasn't realized that morons in greater numbers only equal a larger mass of stupid?

Libertarians have the right ideas though. It'll be interesting to see what member manages to pervert them for their own personal gain. And then it will be terrifying to see what the next incarnation of liberal is after power swings in the Neo-Con favor.

By the way, Heinlein, fantastic writer.


I use to agree somewhat with the Libertarian's, but then I turned 16. ;)

Seriously, I agree with a few things, (legalizing drugs for example), but imo most of the libertarian philosophy just doesn't work in the real world. As Thomas Jefferson found out when he became president, the ideas sound great on paper, but when you actually have to implement them, they don't work quite as well.

One example is economics and industry. If everyone played fair and was nice, then the libertarian philosphy of government staying out of industry would be great. But we have found out over the years that there has to be a balance between government regulation and free market, or we end up with tremendous problems.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:51 PM

if everyone played fair and was nice, communism would work too :D

even democracy doesn't work all that well, but it's certainly best at making up for mean people.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:58 PM

if everyone played fair and was nice, communism would work too :D

even democracy doesn't work all that well, but it's certainly best at making up for mean people.


I agree with you.

And in other news, Hell just froze over. ;)

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 10:36 PM

Speaking of Libertarianism, I'm currently reading this...

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it's farking excellent.


it makes me sad that the Libertarian revolution is fiction :(

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:35 AM

it makes me sad that the Libertarian revolution is fiction :(


Given how many fair tax rallies there are in the next few months, I don't think this Revolution is too far off. More than likely not by the next round of elections or even the next presidential election. But there is some momentum there that could be built on.

Of course, I'm not usually right on politics. I haven't voted for a major party for president in any election I've been a part of so I have ALWAYS backed a loser:D

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:35 AM

Because frankly, I don't want to be associated with all of the neoconservative wingnuts out there claiming to be libertarian, just to appear different and above the fray while still trumpeting their idiotic ideals.

Enough is enough, and on behalf of the libertarian party, let me say, we don't want you. I'm talking to you, hannity and glenn beck disciples.

Be a republican and be proud of it. Find your next reagan and leave us alone.

Why must people who have become ashamed of their party undermine another party for the reason of saving face?


You ARE a wingnut!

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 07:47 AM

I'M sane. It's everybody else that's crazy! :smilewinkgrin:


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