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#16 engine9

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 09:52 PM

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 10:10 PM

We went into Iraq with Clintons army (the "army you have", not the "army you want"). They did fine. It was the clueless people in charge that thought putting the army in charge of building a peace would be enough that was the problem.

We are not going to become a second rate military power in my lifetime, I can guarantee you that.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 10:28 PM

We went into Iraq with Clintons army (the "army you have", not the "army you want"). They did fine. It was the clueless people in charge that thought putting the army in charge of building a peace would be enough that was the problem.

We are not going to become a second rate military power in my lifetime, I can guarantee you that.


Actually we went in in 2003 Bush took over in 2000 so he had 3 years to rebuild the army up.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 06:50 AM

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Military spending did not rise by a significant amount until we were going into Iraq.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 07:14 AM

Actually we went in in 2003 Bush took over in 2000 so he had 3 years to rebuild the army up.


But you don't need a large army to occupy a nation when they will greet you as liberators!!! [genius paleoconservative logic circa 2003 since swept under the rug like so many other fallacies]

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:36 AM

And it would have worked if it weren't for you meddling kids

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 12:46 AM

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Military spending did not rise by a significant amount until we were going into Iraq.


You have one for 1995-2000?

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 01:50 AM

403.7 Billion in 1990
354.3 Billion in 1991
374.4 Billion in 1992
354.8 Billion in 1993
334.5 Billion in 1994
315.1 Billion in 1995

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 05:43 AM

1996 307.4
1997 305.3
1998 296.7
1999 298.4
2000 311.7

From the numbers, it looks like the "peace dividend" provided by the end of the Cold War topped out at 103 billion or so yearly, or about 25 percent of military spending. I can't tell you if these numbers are adjusted for inflation in any way. As you can see, the budget generated by the last year of Bush I had the largest single year drop in military spending.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 05:31 PM

We need upgrades of planes that are pushing 15 years of age. F-14, F-15, Herrier. The way the world is, i want some nice stuff for our military

Screw the helicopters, unless we are replacing The 46 and the 47


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