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#1 stirs

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:41 PM

As of December 11th:

1 Indy Andrew Luck
2 Minny Matt Kalil
3 St Louis Justin Blackmon
4 Washington Matt Barkley
5 Carolina Morris Claiborne


At least while it lasts, we are in on one of the marquee picks.

#2 Jbro

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:46 PM

Kalil is staying in college and Barkley isn't going 4th but cool thread.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 08:41 PM

Kalil is staying in college and Barkley isn't going 4th but cool thread.


Kalil said that was just a rumor, last time I heard.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 09:05 PM

it is just a rumor, he hasn't decided yet I don't think.

he and barkley will likely decide together. would not be surprised if they stay in, they want a bowl game win. can't say I blame 'em.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 09:22 PM

If Kalil comes out, we need to trade up and get him. I don't know how we do it, but we need him bad. I'm very tired of seeing Wharton move to LT every time Gross goes down.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 09:32 PM

Actually, we may not need to trade up, we may finish in the 2nd overall spot. Got Hou/Tam (of course they do stink up the joint)/NO. If Kalil comes out, that would be super to have the 2nd overall pick.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 09:35 PM

(9:00 PM): SC OT denies earlier report about leaning toward staying in school ... Southern California junior LT Matt Kalil has denied published reports earlier today that he is leaning strongly toward returning for his senior season next fall. Kalil, who is currently being projected as the top OT in the 2012 draft and a possible top 5 pick were he to declare for this year’s draft, says he is still gathering information and exploring his options.


By the way, don't think we can do better than 4th

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 10:25 PM

How are we all of a sudden picking ahead of TB? We still have the same record and beat them once. We probably still miss out on Claiborne. And what's this 2nd overall talk? Minnesota and St. Louis still have worse records than us and we actually have a reasonably winnable game left (TB).

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:19 AM

How are we all of a sudden picking ahead of TB? We still have the same record and beat them once. We probably still miss out on Claiborne. And what's this 2nd overall talk? Minnesota and St. Louis still have worse records than us and we actually have a reasonably winnable game left (TB).


The tie breaker is not based on 'head-to-head' matchup like most would think. It's determined on strength of schedule.. and right now, the Bucs SoS is stronger than ours.. so they are considered the 'better' team because we both have the same record of 4-9, but they did it against a tougher schedule.. so we get to pick before them.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 03:23 PM

Kalil is staying in college and Barkley isn't going 4th but cool thread.

If the Skins have a chance to get Barkley they won't hesitate. You have to admire what Barkley did at USC this year, with really nothing to play for his leadership showed as the Trojans won 10 games, I honestly think they were the third best team in the country. Washington hasn't had a franchise QB in +20 years and this would be their golden opportunity. I still wouldn't be surprised at all for them to give up as much as three first round picks for Luck. They are desperate.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 03:25 PM

If Kalil comes out, we need to trade up and get him. I don't know how we do it, but we need him bad. I'm very tired of seeing Wharton move to LT every time Gross goes down.

No we don't, there are two other quality tackles that will be there if tackle is the route we want to go. I think Claiborne will be the pick IF he is available, but I think Jacksonville will pick before us and I would expect them to snag him. I have no idea what we would do right now.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 04:48 PM

No we don't, there are two other quality tackles that will be there if tackle is the route we want to go. I think Claiborne will be the pick IF he is available, but I think Jacksonville will pick before us and I would expect them to snag him. I have no idea what we would do right now.


I agree that we do not need Kalil. Right now, if the draft happened today.. we would be #5, and Jax would pick #6, Bucs at #9. So we would have first shot at Claiborne if draft happened right now. I hope the Bucs can beat the Cowboys this week, and solidify our spot ahead of them. I think the Jaguars will get a WR like Alshon Jeffrey if available.. they have no good weapons for Gabbert.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 05:00 PM

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 06:17 PM

Kalil has not yet made a final decision

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 07:53 PM

The tie breaker is not based on 'head-to-head' matchup like most would think. It's determined on strength of schedule.. and right now, the Bucs SoS is stronger than ours.. so they are considered the 'better' team because we both have the same record of 4-9, but they did it against a tougher schedule.. so we get to pick before them.


I see.


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