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My Plan for the Draft

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Here it is. We lose out, the other teams win out and give us the 2nd overall pick. If Kalil is there, we draft him. If he stays in school, we trade back, pick up an extra 1st this year and next year, along with an extra 2nd this year, and draft accordingly. Then next year with our two 1sts, we trade up and select Kalil. How about it?:cool:

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good plan

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I do not see us loosing out. I think we loose in Houston Sunday....Reliant Stadium has been a house of horrors for us, and the Texans D is stout. I think we beat Tampa Bay Christmas Eve at BoA ( a glimpse of the future and a stocking stuffer for the fans). New Orleans?, if they rest their starters we win, if not...?? Anyway the draft will be interesting. I think we all know the needs are many. My "wish" list includes a big athletic WR, plus help at LB and of course secondary help. And for God's sakes get a kicker!!!!

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I'm down to go straight secondary...Claiborne and Lester..giving up what we did to matt Ryan was just disgusting and Martin has been straight nauseating this year

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ugh. you don't make a team better by losing out and getting better draft picks.

it just doesn't work.

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Get off the Kalil train.. it's not going to happen man. The Rams and Vikings may not win another game all season.. neither will Cleveland. 2 of those 3 teams need an OT.. and Kalil fits the bill.

And we are not going to lose to the Bucs.

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oh wow, lose out, get a high pick and then trade down

I've never heard this proposal before on this message board

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[quote name='Raging Bull']oh wow, lose out, get a high pick and then trade down

I've never heard this proposal before on this message board[/QUOTE]

really? That is surprising raging bull, it's a pretty common idea.

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I think realistically, we may be picking either 3rd or 4th overall. It could be that the Rams trade out with another team looking to take a QB. So if we are in the third position, Kalil could fall to us. I know I ramble on and on about Kalil, but you saw what Ryan did out there yesterday. How he was getting down the field and making blocks. His brother is a much better prospect coming out. It's time we had a sure fire star at LT, to give Cam sufficient protection.

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Anyone who want to lose or "loose" out is a fake fan- simple and plain.

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WE ARE NOT DRAFTING KALIL EVEN IF HES AVAILABLE. Some of you want him purely because of his last name. Get over it

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If Kalil is available, there's no way we shouldn't draft him. His last name bumps his value to our team *a little*, but you'd think his value to our team would be a little more than others too because (assuming they have a good relationship) it would help the chemistry of the O-line (probably the most important single group in the game to have good chemistry) and also help with resigning the both of them. They might be more willing to take a little less pay to stay together and be less tempted to leave in free agency with the two of them together. His value to the Panthers goes beyond the simple value of a potential elite LT. With Gross getting up there in age, and his play seeming to decline the past couple years (at least in my opinion) we could extend Gross's career a little by putting him on the right side where a quick step is less vital and have Cam's blind side protected for the next decade+.

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I don't really like my brother so the chemistry thing isn't that relevant, they might even get into more arguments who knows, his name shouldn't affect if we draft him or not

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[quote name='The Huddler']WE ARE NOT DRAFTING KALIL EVEN IF HES AVAILABLE. Some of you want him purely because of his last name. Get over it[/QUOTE]

That's a stupid a post as I've read on here, and that's saying something with the likes of TRD, KT, PFFL, etc.

His last name has nothing to do with it for me, but pedigree does carry weight with a lot of scouts-> See Pouncey.

However, Matt is the unquestioned top OT in the draft, the type who protect your QB's blindside for 10+ years. He's a sure top 3 pick unless trades for QB's get crazy.

He'd be BPA damn near regardless of where we pick.

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[quote name='BigBeast52']I don't really like my brother so the chemistry thing isn't that relevant, they might even get into more arguments who knows, his name shouldn't affect if we draft him or not[/QUOTE]

lol I don't think the fact that YOU don't like YOUR brother makes bloodline ties on the Panthers O-line irrelevant...

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I wouldn't be surprised if we finished 2-1 to close the year. I think we match up well against the Texans with all their injuries, and the Bucs are in a tailspin. Also, depending on what they are playing for, the Saints very well might rest their starters. I see us drafting no higher than 5th, which removes Kalil from the arguement. A lot can change between now and April, but I'd imagine we'd have to look at CB, WR, OT, or LB in the 1st. Unless we have the chance to trade down, I almost fully believe we'll take BPA at this point. That means Blackmon, Claiborne, Kalil, and Coples are fair game in my opinion.

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We don't match up with the Texans run game very well and they do boast the #1 D right now. I think we beat Tampa at home and finish 5-11.

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[quote name='JawnyBlaze']lol I don't think the fact that YOU don't like YOUR brother makes bloodline ties on the Panthers O-line irrelevant...[/QUOTE]

Lol im just trying to say that just because there brothers doesn't mean there gonna read each others minds and cam will never get sacked. The brother thing shouldn't mean anything

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[quote name='BigBeast52'][B]Lol im just trying to say that just because there brothers doesn't mean there gonna read each others minds and cam will never get sacked.[/B] The brother thing shouldn't mean anything[/QUOTE]

I don't recall anyone ever suggesting any such thing. And whether you want to admit it or not, the brother connection does mean something. If there happens to be bad blood between them I'm sure that will be made known to decision makers and it will be taken into consideration.

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[quote name='Jackofalltrades']We don't match up with the Texans run game very well and they do boast the #1 D right now. I think we beat Tampa at home and finish 5-11.[/QUOTE]

Earlier this season I would fully agree with you, but our D against the run has looked way better with the combo of Shirley, Neblett and Kearse, along with Senn's play at OLB. Houston is actually my second favorite team to watch, and their defense is nothing to be joked about. Their front seven boast a lot of talent, including rookies Brooks Reed and JJ Watt. Conor Barwin has come on very strong after losing Mario Williams, and their secondary finally plays at an NFL level with Jackson and Joseph. You also can't forget about Cushing and Ryans either, both of whom are solid MLB's. Houston very well might have the best set of pass rushers we've seen since Indy with Mathis and Freeny, but with all that said, I like our chances. I actually believe we will make things tough for Foster running the ball, forcing Houston to use him in screens and protections. Foster is still very solid in those situations, but without having Andre Johnson or Matt Schaub on the field, we don't have to worry quite as much about the deep pass. Don't overcommit to the pass rush and ALWAYS keep a spy on Foster. The Texans will have to find Owen Daniels to have success, he seems to be Yates go to guy when he's in trouble. With all this being said, I think we sqeak out a victory over the Texans. If nothing else, it's a gut feeling.

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I think this Sunday will seem familiar to Panther fans. Panthers compete early but the defense wears down in second half and running game of Texans take over.

As for the Bucs, Panthers should win easily unless Freeman plays. He seems to give his team a lift, not just from the QB play.

5-11 is probably about right.

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I fear you're right on the first point, but anything's possible. On the second point, I'm not sure even Freeman is enough for them. They're just dysfunctional this year. I even read (on PFT, mind you) they considered firing Raheem Morris after the last game but decided to let him ride out the year.

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Agreed. Just saying that with Freeman, the game will be closer.

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