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#91 Zuffassa

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 09:35 PM

First things first, Armanti is under 5-11, I'd say hes about 5-10-1/2. I've stood next to him before and I'm smack dab at 6ft.

Second, this might as well be his rookie year because Fox hated "the powers that be" going over him and basically ignoring him when they drafted Armanti. This put Armanti on the bench all year. It wasn't anything against him it was a battle between Fox and the boys. Basically Armanti got a year long rookie camp and this is his rookie season. I've also heard that they drafted him because they didn't want the Patriot empire to draft him.

Third, they aren't paying him much at all so they might as well let him ride out his contract because for the price they are paying him you aren't going to have Hester returning punts for you.

In time he will become a regular rotation receiver. He would already be getting field time this year except Rivera wanted to go with a more TE/RB based offense, taking advantage of the passing lanes that opened up for the top 3 receivers. This doesn't leave much room for a guy who is a new WR.

As for his arm. He is way better at passing then Clausen. He is shorter but he has great field vision. Carolina's O-line is no taller than the O-line that was at App with the exception of Otah at 6-6, who is injured.

With that said his punt returning has been bad. He catches the ball and doesn't muff which is fantastic. Its a good starting place. The problem is that hes still trying to run like hes just been snapped the ball out of the backfield which isn't how you get yards punt returning. With this I mean he gets happy feet trying to make a decision on where to run to. He gets zero blocking on returns but that doesn't mean he should be averaging 8 yards a return. I would say about half the time in the NFL you can average 8 yards by simply catching and running straight forward immediately. Most of the time he has to fair catch though because there are 5 guys in his face that no one bothered to block. That doesn't make up for the other times though when he gets happy feet and doesn't make up his mind and ends up running 10 yards....sidways.

You guys need to stop being so hard on the guy though. Its like he is your goat for the year. He will make it eventually.

For anyone who doesn't like small colleges. 1/3 of the players who ae on current NFL rosters are from FCS schools. Thats right not even small time FBS/BCS, they are from FCS schools. So anyone hating on those schools is a complete fool who knows absolutely nothing about the NFL or probably life for that matter.

Terrel Owens and Jerry Rice. The top two WR's statistically that there has ever been. Both of them came from small time schools. Favre, one of the top statistical QB's went to southern miss, a little C-USA school. The list goes on and on about people from smaller schools who became stars.

Aaron Rodgers sat behind Favre for a couple years before even getting a shot and look at what he has done. Give the kid a break guys. Get out of your armchairs and go ask Ray Lewis to hit you a few times and we will see what you think about NFL players then. As other have said this isn't Madden so get over yourselves. The staff knows more about the game then you chumps so we will all just have to wait and see what happens after the season. Quite frankly I hope they keep him just to anger some of you guys.

Edited by Zuffassa, 26 December 2011 - 11:23 AM.


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Posted 25 December 2011 - 10:01 PM

For what we invested in him. I dont feel he is worth it.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:23 PM

Naanee broke his foot.....put Armanti on the field.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:40 PM

Naanee broke his foot.....put Armanti on the field.


I would like to see Armanti as well, but I'll bet they go with Tutu.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:40 PM

So how fast do you expect an undersized college QB to turn into a WR/PR in the NFL? This is year two and Ive seen worse. You know what coaches dont like, turnovers, thats why Goodson has been on the bench. There are Vets who have muffed more punts this year. They could have replaced Edwards at any point this year. They didnt. Seems the actual people that matter dont think he's that mediocre


I don't expect him to.. clearly that answers your question..


and to address you're last point, Mare hasn't been replaced either. kthxbye

Edited by bleys, 26 December 2011 - 01:42 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:51 PM

I would like to see Armanti as well, but I'll bet they go with Tutu.

From the presser it sounds like all four (Armanti, Tutu, Pilares and Adams) will split time and it's still up in the air as to how much.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 03:28 PM

he's a garbage player and if we murdered every piece of poo who went to that joke of a "university" the world would be a better place


You must truly live a pathetic rock bottom existence. If Keith Moon was alive he would kick your miserable azz.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 04:08 PM

First things first, Armanti is under 5-11, I'd say hes about 5-10-1/2.As for his arm. He is way better at passing then Clausen. He is shorter but he has great field vision. Carolina's O-line is no taller than the O-line that was at App with the exception of Otah at 6-6, who is injured.

...Terrel Owens and Jerry Rice. The top two WR's statistically that there has ever been. Both of them came from small time schools. Favre, one of the top statistical QB's went to southern miss, a little C-USA school. The list goes on and on about people from smaller schools who became stars.

Aaron Rodgers sat behind Favre for a couple years before even getting a shot and look at what he has done. Give the kid a break guys. Get out of your armchairs and go ask Ray Lewis to hit you a few times and we will see what you think about NFL players then. As other have said this isn't Madden so get over yourselves. The staff knows more about the game then you chumps so we will all just have to wait and see what happens after the season. Quite frankly I hope they keep him just to anger some of you guys.


Cut your thread down because, well, excuses are all that is there, or strange rationalization and surely you can't be comparing AE to the players you name.

In the NFL, best players play.

AE had many opportunties during training camp, he failed, hands of stone.

Odds are he has had opportunties at practice and didn't shine.

As badly as coaches want to win, if they felt he had any ability, whatsoever, he'd be on the field and if all he is good for is standing there fielding punts the Panthers can and should, do better.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 06:22 PM

Cut your thread down because, well, excuses are all that is there, or strange rationalization and surely you can't be comparing AE to the players you name.

In the NFL, best players play.

AE had many opportunties during training camp, he failed, hands of stone.

Odds are he has had opportunties at practice and didn't shine.

As badly as coaches want to win, if they felt he had any ability, whatsoever, he'd be on the field and if all he is good for is standing there fielding punts the Panthers can and should, do better.


If he can learn to catch a punt he can learn to catch a pass. Hopefully for another team.

Armanti needs to get out of Carolina, period. Haters are going to hate and homers are going to love. Haters will be happy he's gone and can move on to complaining about the wasted picks and the homers should be happy for him because he might wind up somewhere where they will alow him to learn and develop and he's not being ripped apart by fans who hated the pick and whose expeciations were way too high for a kid trying to convert to another position at the top football level in the world. Not exactly the best time to try and change. I hope they cut him and I will wish him the best wherever he winds up. Anywhere but here, where the hatred and vitroil for him, App State, and Boone is just unbelievable.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 01:28 PM

Really? Thats pretty fuged up. You are apparently drunk.

I hope everyone that went to your community college gets murdered as well.


Lay off the guy. He most likely went to Western Carolina, that's the only place I can envision someone having that much hate for App. Of course, Western is essentially the same thing as a community college.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 01:48 PM

If he can learn to catch a punt he can learn to catch a pass. Hopefully for another team.

Armanti needs to get out of Carolina, period. Haters are going to hate and homers are going to love. Haters will be happy he's gone and can move on to complaining about the wasted picks and the homers should be happy for him because he might wind up somewhere where they will alow him to learn and develop and he's not being ripped apart by fans who hated the pick and whose expeciations were way too high for a kid trying to convert to another position at the top football level in the world. Not exactly the best time to try and change. I hope they cut him and I will wish him the best wherever he winds up. Anywhere but here, where the hatred and vitroil for him, App State, and Boone is just unbelievable.


Hey look, it's a homer!

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 06:10 PM

Hey look, it's a homer!


Wow, I'm impressed. And I thought I hid it so well.:D

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 07:57 PM

and to address you're last point, Mare hasn't been replaced either. kthxbye


To address my last point, Management still knows more than you. kthxbye
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 08:32 PM

Wow, I'm impressed. And I thought I hid it so well.:D


You can be a homer, but there is no way that you can be mad at the fans for being pissed at where/how he was drafted. Had he been drafted in the 5-6 round (which in reality is where he should have gone), no one would have really cared about him in the NFL except for App State fans.

We as Panther fans trust the FO at making good decisions for the Draft. When they fail, we not only take out the blame on the FO, but also the player for not living up to whatever expectations they were supposed to live up too.

You are correct, he needs another shot.....however on another team...

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:37 PM

You can be a homer, but there is no way that you can be mad at the fans for being pissed at where/how he was drafted. Had he been drafted in the 5-6 round (which in reality is where he should have gone), no one would have really cared about him in the NFL except for App State fans.

We as Panther fans trust the FO at making good decisions for the Draft. When they fail, we not only take out the blame on the FO, but also the player for not living up to whatever expectations they were supposed to live up too.

You are correct, he needs another shot.....however on another team...


I think if you re-read the post you quoted you will see that I said, I believe, three times that he needed to be on another team.

I do disagree about blaming the player and where they were drafted. I don't recall Armanti standing outside the Panthers headquarters with a sign saying "trade away a pick and draft me". No one can know how any college player will play in the NFL. Some of the most "NFL ready players" have turned out to be huge busts. And some of the "Not ready for the NFL" players (as Cam was said to be, even on here by many people) turn out to be great players. In fact, if you look back to posts I made last year I said he was drafted way too high and would take several years to develop into an NFL player, if at all. I just think blaming him for moves the front office and coaches did or did not do is wrong. That was something that was completely out of his control and he was thrown to the wolves at feeding time.


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