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#1 Argus Plexus

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:13 AM

What happened to Martin and Godfrey? They were so fast and athletic in 2009, going after the ball on almost every play. Now, they just look sluggish and unmotivated.

What happened? They look scared to tackle, they get run over often, they get burned on a regular basis, and the number of picks has dropped significantly.

You cannot blame this completely on bad line/linebacker/corner play. Nope. That can only absorb part of the blame. What it comes down to is this:

What happened to our Safeties? Why do they appear so sluggish and unmotivated, and what can be done to fix them? And if they cannot be fixed, then who should replace them, be it someone on the team/draftee/free agent?

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:16 AM

More concerned with Sherrod personally

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:18 AM

More concerned with Sherrod personally

They both look slow and unmotivated out there to me.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:18 AM

To be honest, I've never been impressed with Godfrey. He's always made too many mistakes and been too inconsistent. I did some pretty serious face palming when we signed him to that big money deal. I don't think he's necessarily a bad safety, I just think you can find that type of guy on the FA market year in and year out. He's nothing special. We're paying him like he's Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed. He ain't.

Martin is a guy who flashed a lot of ability. I thought he was going to be the first true, ball hawking, sideline to sideline FS that we've had in a looooooong time. He has regressed. He was a better safety when he first saw the field.

Let's just say that I won't shed a tear if Meeks is no longer on the staff next year. I thought he was average as a DC and sure enough, now that he's the secondary coach, outside of Gamble, we can't cover my grandmother on her walker.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:20 AM

He looked like the son of Jebus in the AZ game in 2009. That whole year he was a f**king beast. Now? He's a nonfactor. In fact, he's a liability.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:20 AM

First: Godfrey didnt play today.
Second: Sherrod martin had a pretty solid game.

Why did you decide to make this thread after this game of all games.

I think Godrey has had a pretty good year. I think he is 2nd on the team in tackles and has been solid in pass coverage.

Martin has had an up and down year, and seeing as Pugh has been pretty bad all year, I could see the panthers trying to strengthen the FS position in the offseason.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:21 AM

Don't ban me bro.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:23 AM

New defence maybe idk?

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:24 AM

First: Godfrey didnt play today.
Second: Sherrod martin had a pretty solid game.

Why did you decide to make this thread after this game of all games.

I think Godrey has had a pretty good year. I think he is 2nd on the team in tackles and has been solid in pass coverage.

Martin has had an up and down year, and seeing as Pugh has been pretty bad all year, I could see the panthers trying to strengthen the FS position in the offseason.


It's not about this game, it's about the season. Our safeties have been a liability all year long.

The problem as I see it is that Martin and Pugh were as good as they've ever been in a Panthers uniform when they first hit the field. Since then, they've regressed. We need to look into bringing in a real secondary coach. Our secondary outside of Gamble is pure garbage. No clue why we gave Godfrey all that money. He has ability, but he's never shown the type of consistency that warrants that type of deal. With Godfrey, Martin, and Pugh we have talent at the position, but that talent isn't producing. Before we start dumping a bunch of resources into "fixing" the position, I'd try another coach first.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:25 AM

First: Godfrey didnt play today.
Second: Sherrod martin had a pretty solid game.

Why did you decide to make this thread after this game of all games.

I think Godrey has had a pretty good year. I think he is 2nd on the team in tackles and has been solid in pass coverage.

Martin has had an up and down year, and seeing as Pugh has been pretty bad all year, I could see the panthers trying to strengthen the FS position in the offseason.

I made this thread because I was curious as to the opinions of other huddlers on this subject.