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is the GOP's strategy really just to find someone that can beat Obama, or just to find the best candidate for the presidency? Because right now, from what I'm seeing, they're only looking for someone that can beat Obama in the election. And that bothers me greatly.

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If the person can't beat Obama.....then the rest is meaningless.

Why would they want to nominate someone who could not beat Obama?

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They want to beat Obama so bad they will elect a left leaning Massachusetts governor who invented the American version of government health care to do it!

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The GOP strategy appears to be split 3 ways right now: social conservative, libertarian, and electable.

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If the GOP's strategy was to find someone that could beat Obama, they would be hailing Ron Paul, especially being he's the only candidate (on either side of the aisle) whose views differ from Obama. However, the GOP and the establishment political system in general are most concerned with continuing the status quo, which would be fulfilled by anyone not named Paul. Obama, Romney, Santorum, Perry, Gingrich, etc, all represent the same corporate and geopolitical interests.
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[quote name='cookinwithgas']They want to beat Obama so bad they will elect a left leaning Massachusetts governor who invented the American version of government health care to do it![/QUOTE]

better than an entitled socialist prick that's never had a job in the real world and has no clue what earning a dollar feels like.

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[quote name='venom']If the GOP's strategy was to find someone that could beat Obama, they would be hailing Ron Paul, especially being he's the only candidate (on either side of the aisle) whose views differ from Obama. However, the GOP and the establishment political system in general are most concerned with continuing the status quo, which would be fulfilled by anyone not named Paul. Obama, Romney, Santorum, Perry, Gingrich, etc, all represent the same corporate and geopolitical interests.[/QUOTE]

He screwed himself with foreign policy. He would could not win.

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[quote name='mvp2011']He screwed himself with foreign policy. He would could not win.[/QUOTE]

Who screwed himself with foreign policy?

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[quote name='venom']Who screwed himself with foreign policy?[/QUOTE]

Paul

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[quote name='mvp2011']better than an entitled socialist prick that's never had a job in the real world and has no clue what earning a dollar feels like.[/QUOTE]

Yeah he was really an entitled kid growing up, unlike Romney. Apartment living, constant moving, a missing father...that really was a sweet deal unlike Romney, who had to endure being the son of a rich businessman and successful politician all his life.

Obama worked as a teenager at Baskin Robbins, but they probably only paid him in ice cream to make sure he had no clue what earning a dollar felt like.

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Obama worked as a teenager at Baskin Robbins, but they probably only paid him in ice cream to make sure he had no clue what earning a dollar felt like.[/QUOTE]

The best CWG can do as far as Obama having a real job is a summer gig he took as a teenager working at Baskin Robbins.

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[quote name='mvp2011']Paul[/QUOTE]

If thats the case thats extremely unfortunate, being his view on foreign policy is the correct one to have. Guess it just goes to show how accepted war mongering and a barbarian frame of mind has become. In all reality though, Paul's foreign policy view is up there as one of the strongest views he has, along with ending the Fed and the war on Drugs.
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[url]http://nymag.com/news/politics/encyclopedia/childhoodhomes-2012/[/url] here, you can be enlightened!

Obama worked as a teen for money, Romney worked because his dad made him.

Obama is now worth abut 7 million (most of that is from his book sales for which he had to be an author, which is kind of like a job where you earn a dollar), Romney anywhere from 190 million to 1 billion (who knows, he is not releasing his tax returns like the rest of us non entitled people), but yeah, that makes Obama so entitled in comparison, I can see why you would support a self starter like Romney over that silver platter Obama.

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Obama needed money as a teen to feed his drug habit.

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[quote name='cookinwithgas'][url]http://nymag.com/news/politics/encyclopedia/childhoodhomes-2012/[/url] here, you can be enlightened!

Obama worked as a teen for money, Romney worked because his dad made him.

Obama is now worth abut 7 million (most of that is from his book sales for which he had to be an author, which is kind of like a job where you earn a dollar), Romney anywhere from 190 million to 1 billion (who knows, he is not releasing his tax returns like the rest of us non entitled people), but yeah, that makes Obama so entitled in comparison, I can see why you would support a self starter like Romney over that silver platter Obama.[/QUOTE]

Romney has been in business for 30 years and made a fortune. Obama is in way over his head and never had the resume to be president.
Romney said he would divulge his tax return if he's the candidate. Why doesn't Obama unseal his records? Better yet, why doesn't the mainstream media call him out on anything? I'm not on either side but its SOOO obvious that conservatives want to help the country, not burn it to the ground.

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[quote name='venom']If thats the case thats extremely unfortunate, being his view on foreign policy is the correct one to have. Guess it just goes to show how accepted war mongering and a barbarian frame of mind has become. In all reality though, Paul's foreign policy view is up there as one of the strongest views he has, along with ending the Fed and the war on Drugs.[/QUOTE]

I like the guy too but being against sanctions to Iran will kill him. Way too many people worried about Iran becoming the next N. Korea. He also seems kind of mealy-mouthed to me. Not strong as a leader should.

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Yes it's so unfortunate that the media will not call him out on whatever it is you make up. And as far as I know, the Constitution does not have any resume requirements for a President.

Romney has been in business for 30 years and made a fortune, aided by nothing other than being born into wealth and having a family with big time political connections.

Obama became President of the most powerful nation on earth, aided by nothing other than the scholarhips he earned and the ability to get people to vote for him.

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[quote name='cookinwithgas']Yes it's so unfortunate that the media will not call him out on whatever it is you make up. And as far as I know, [B]the Constitution does not have any resume requirements for a President.[/B]
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After 2008, that's clear!

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Romney has been in business for 30 years and made a fortune, aided by nothing other than being born into wealth and having a family with big time political connections.
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Typical liberal response-- the rich are only rich because of unfair advantages that they have had.

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Obama became President of the most powerful nation on earth, aided by nothing other than the scholarhips he earned and the ability to [B]sucker[/B] people to vote for him.[/QUOTE]

FIFY

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[quote name='cookinwithgas']Yes it's so unfortunate that the media will not call him out on whatever it is you make up. And as far as I know, the Constitution does not have any resume requirements for a President.

Romney has been in business for 30 years and made a fortune, aided by nothing other than being born into wealth and having a family with big time political connections.

Obama became President of the most powerful nation on earth, aided by nothing other than the scholarhips he earned and the ability to get people to vote for him.[/QUOTE]

Obama is no different except he didn't do anything management or business related. He's a fucking lawyer that never practiced turned senator(talk about entitled) hahaha. I can't believe literate people still support this fool.

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[quote name='mvp2011']I like the guy too but being against sanctions to Iran will kill him. Way too many people worried about Iran becoming the next N. Korea. He also seems kind of mealy-mouthed to me. Not strong as a leader should.[/QUOTE]

Though I dont really care for Paul's foreign policy, I do think that it is a good idea that we back down from the world police for a minute so that other countries can take the lead for once. We have too many problems at home right now to be worrying about protecting the rest of the world.

Isreal is perfectly capable of taking action themselves to prevent a nuclear Iran. Why do we have to do everything?

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[quote name='chris999']Though I dont really care for Paul's foreign policy, I do think that it is a good idea that we back down from the world police for a minute so that other countries can take the lead for once. We have too many problems at home right now to be worrying about protecting the rest of the world.

Isreal is perfectly capable of taking action themselves to prevent a nuclear Iran. Why do we have to do everything?[/QUOTE]

The problem is that no one will help. Russia, China, France, Germany.. they could care less. There's a lot of concern that China and Russia are helping the Iranians with their nuclear program. Isreal can't really protect itself from nuclear weapons. Neither can we for that matter.

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[quote name='venom']If the GOP's strategy was to find someone that could beat Obama, they would be hailing Ron Paul, especially being he's the only candidate (on either side of the aisle) whose views differ from Obama. However, the GOP and the establishment political system in general are most concerned with continuing the status quo, which would be fulfilled by anyone not named Paul. Obama, Romney, Santorum, Perry, Gingrich, etc, all represent the same corporate and geopolitical interests.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you completely until you mention Paul...

Paul is the only candidate that is willing to take on the Fed and this "corporatocracy" that you are always speaking of.

Sorry I cant seem to spell that word right...

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[quote name='mvp2011']Obama is no different except he didn't do anything management or business related. He's a fuging lawyer that never practiced turned senator(talk about entitled) hahaha. I can't believe literate people still support this fool.[/QUOTE]

OK so now we've gone from him somehow being more entitled than Romney to simply not being a "manager" or doing anything "business related", which somehow disqualifies him.

As far as being a "lawyer that never practiced", I guess you would feel alot better about say, John Edwards?

Oh wait you are wrong:

[quote]In 1993 he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[/quote]

I would assume this was a "job where you earn a dollar" but hey, maybe he worked there for three years for nothing.

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[quote name='mvp2011']The problem is that no one will help. Russia, China, France, Germany.. they could care less. There's a lot of concern that China and Russia are helping the Iranians with their nuclear program. Isreal can't really protect itself from nuclear weapons. Neither can we for that matter.[/QUOTE]

I agree that Iran's nuclear ambitions are scary, and that other world players dont seem to care, but the first bomb that Iran makes has Isreal's name all over it. Isreal is perfectly capable of taking care of theyre problem themselves, as they demonstrated in 1967.

Isreal is our biggest ally. China Russia and the others know to stay out of it unless they want to deal with us.

We have been in 3 wars this past decade. It is time for someone else to take action for once. As long as we are over there doing all of the work, and taking all of the casualties, the rest of the world will just step back and let us do it instead of taking responsibility for themselves.

They are our ally, and if they actually need help we will be there for them, but it is time for other nations to help themselves instead of waiting for us to do something about it every time.

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[quote name='cookinwithgas']

I would assume this was a "job where you earn a dollar" but hey, maybe he worked there for three years for nothing.[/QUOTE]

How do you figure that he was practicing in 2003 and 2004, yet his law license was inactive?

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