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the writer was a douche, but he owned it and used the experience to make him wiser in the way he looks at prospects.

i probably won't read his stuff again, well not intentionally, but i never read his stuff before (that i knew of). i do know that i respect him a lot lot more than those other clowns that have yet to man up and admit they were so wrong about him.

Question worth asking in the larger discussion though...

Has Newton actually "succeeded at the next level" yet, or did he just have a great rookie year?

Worth remembering that some folks who proclaimed Matt Ryan as a successful pro and the "next big thing" based on his rookie year are now being forced to rethink. And Ryan's not alone. Plenty of promising rookie campaigns have been followed by mediocre careers (though few if any have started with as much promise as Newton).

I firmly believe that Newton will be the success that we all think he can be.

But if there's one caution I'd give to Pamther fans looking to the future, it'd be this: Plenty of reason to think we'll get there, but we ain't there yet. And if you don't think celebrating too soon can be a real downer, ask a Saints fan how they feel right now.

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All I know is that his picks for this weekends games were right on point.

And lets be honest, a lot of us felt the same way about Cam before the seasons. Come on, man up about that! Who honestly thought he would break the records he broke?

Sadly, many of you simply played follow the media and just bought into everything you heard and read. Others felt safe in hiding their personal baises behind every negative thing they heard about Cam.

Let's be real, it's not so much what he has done as it is not allowing him to prove himself. Cam was told that he was only given two options. He either proved that he can play QB on an elite level or be a bust.

Funny that the other QB, Bliane Gabbert, who always linked with Cam and was highly praised by folks like this sportswriter is going to be given EVERY chance to succeed before he's called a bust. :rolleyes:

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Not saying there aren't any but which clowns in particular still stick by their initial thoughts that Cam would struggle at the next level? I can't think of one analyst that hasn't said (when talking about Cam) how wrong they were and are amazed by what he accomplished this season. Whenever I hear a conversation about Cam on the radio or TV whether it be on a national or local level they all say that and give him his due respect.

Nolan Nawrocki. He did a piece recently on Cam and the entire video interview centered on vague "pre-draft criticism" but never mentioned he was by far the most egregious offender, than repeatedly said Cam needed to work on learning his playbook, and grimaced with every faint word of praise he gave him.

Thankfully, he will always be known as the douche who basically ruined his scouting credentials by trashing Cam Newton. How does that smile look now, Nolan Nitwit?

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Draft analysts don't ruin their credentials by being wrong about prospects, even high profile ones. If they did, none of them would have a job because they're wrong on an annual basis (remember Kiper talking about Clausen?)

All the guys who doubted Newton, Nawrocki included, will continue in their jobs and move on to the next crop. Panther fans may not like it, but that's just how it is.

When we write stuff like "he's gonna pay for what he said about Cam" we sound like petulant teenagers.

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Question worth asking in the larger discussion though...

Has Newton actually "succeeded at the next level" yet, or did he just have a great rookie year?

Worth remembering that some folks who proclaimed Matt Ryan as a successful pro and the "next big thing" based on his rookie year are now being forced to rethink. And Ryan's not alone. Plenty of promising rookie campaigns have been followed by mediocre careers (though few if any have started with as much promise as Newton).

I firmly believe that Newton will be the success that we all think he can be.

But if there's one caution I'd give to Pamther fans looking to the future, it'd be this: Plenty of reason to think we'll get there, but we ain't there yet. And if you don't think celebrating too soon can be a real downer, ask a Saints fan how they feel right now.

Well, I look at it this way, Peyton Manning was highly praised during his rookie season also. And his rookie start, although good, wasn't great...28 ints. He was given a chance to succeed and he has in his own way. Since Cam has proven that he can hang with the so called elite QBs, maybe it's time to give him a chance to prove himself. He will stumble along the way like most QBs but he has shown, unlike certain QBs, that he has the tools to help out his team.

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Nolan Nawrocki. He did a piece recently on Cam and the entire video interview centered on vague "pre-draft criticism" but never mentioned he was by far the most egregious offender, than repeatedly said Cam needed to work on learning his playbook, and grimaced with every faint word of praise he gave him.

Thankfully, he will always be known as the douche who basically ruined his scouting credentials by trashing Cam Newton. How does that smile look now, Nolan Nitwit?

What do you expect from a guy who was to lazy to actually go out and do his work on a kid. And when called out by Moon, claimed he said the same thing about Jimmy Clausen as a way to cover his lazy behind. Yeah, cut and paste work being passed off as serious analysis.

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If Cam has a Josh Freeman like regression next year, will you guys all man up and admit you guys were wrong and write letters to yourself demanding you apologize and write letters apologizing to the original authors?

My point, and the point I've had all along, is let's wait 3 years before claiming victory one way or another. He looks great now, but the NFL is a bitch.

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What do you expect from a guy who was to lazy to actually go out and do his work on a kid. And when called out by Moon, claimed he said the same thing about Jimmy Clausen as a way to cover his lazy behind. Yeah, cut and paste work being passed off as serious analysis.

He did say the same things about Jimmy Clausen. I know because I actually read the profiles.

Funny that the other QB, Bliane Gabbert, who always linked with Cam and was highly praised by folks like this sportswriter is going to be given EVERY chance to succeed before he's called a bust. :rolleyes:

You might want to consider posting something with an actual basis in reality at some point rather than the constant "everybody hates Cam, everybody loves Blaine" schtick. It's old, and frankly has pretty much no basis in fact :nonod:

"Highly praised by folks like this sportswriter" eh? Do you have the first clue what this guy thought about Blaine Gabbert? Here's a tip. The linked article makes no mention of him at all.

It does talk about The Golden Calf of Bristol, Greg McElroy, Ryan Leaf, Donovan McNabb, JaMarcus Russell, Mark Sanchez and Daunte Culpepper (a lot) but no Gabbert. I did a quick search on this author to see if I could find something he wrote about Gabbert. Found nada.

Reality: There were draftniks who loved Cam, hated Blaine; loved Blaine, hated Cam; loved both; hated both. This silliness that everyone loved Gabbert and hated Newton is just goofy and sounds like a persecution complex.

Rather than living on that, try this instead:

We won more games than people thought we would last year. We have plenty of hope for the future. People (mostly opposing fans) still doubt Newton? Who cares? His teammates don't. Pretty much none of us do. We've got no reason to be anything but optimistic for our future.

That's where I'm at right now. If you wanna keep wallowing in "someone said something mean about Cam", feel free. But I'll guarantee this: Those of us who are looking at future hopes rather than obsessing over past wrongs are having a lot more fun than you are :sosp:

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I didn't have anything against Cam specifically, but I thought it was a bad year to take a QB because of the lockout. I thought the lack of minicamps and OTAs would severely hamper any rookie QB. I was obviously wrong. :o

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