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If Cam has a Josh Freeman like regression next year, will you guys all man up and admit you guys were wrong and write letters to yourself demanding you apologize and write letters apologizing to the original authors?

My point, and the point I've had all along, is let's wait 3 years before claiming victory one way or another. He looks great now, but the NFL is a bitch.

Valid that the rookie year isn't the be-all/end-all of draft judgments.

That said, regression doesn't really worry me right now. Newton acclimated to the NFL way faster than anyone had a right to expect, and he's continuing to work in an atmosphere that has good veteran leadership. So regression doesn't seem like a logical concern.

The things that do worry me: injuries top the list, the possibility of having to serve under a new OC (again) is a biggy, opposing DCs coming up with an effective strategy against him is a moderate one, and off the field incidents are always a possibility though I'm about 98% sure that stuff is behind him (he's a pro now, and he seems to know how much is at stake).

No, he hasn't "arrived" yet (said as much earlier in the thread).

But I do believe he will. Maybe not this coming season, but by year three at the latest.

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Don't bother Mr. Scot, he's beyond crazy.

Maybe. I don't know that he's "beyond crazy" yet though. If I thought that I wouldn't bother talking to him.

I think he's just one of those guys who holds on to past slights so tightly that it prevents him from enjoying present success. Most of us probably know somebody like that in real life. Truth be told, it's a pretty common thing among sports fans.

Toughest thing in the world to get 'em to let go, but sometimes it's worth a shot. Will it work? Don't know. Don't really care. Wrote it for the same reason I write anything on here: I felt like it.

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Yeah, time will tell but you have to remember, the fans here are so emotionally invested in Cam they said he arrived week 1 and said he was top 5 QB in the NFL after week 3 or 4.

I just think it's funny.

(As I've said many times, I'm excited about the future but not as concrete in my beliefs as others, as I have a fully functioning brain)

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Maybe. I don't know that he's "beyond crazy" yet though. If I thought that I wouldn't bother talking to him.

You should read some of his other posts. 98% are about the media slighting Cam/blacks in some way and giving Gabbert/The Golden Calf of Bristol/Dalton the benefit of the doubt.

He thinks this fanbase hates Cam for some reason.

He didn't know what JV football was.

He thought 12 guys played on offense and defense.

Shall I continue?

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I kept pretty quite about Newton but did post this last Jan.

"I agree Newton must be able to pass first to make it in the big league but it sure would be exciting seeing the aints, birds, and bucs chasing after him with their tongues hanging out cursing every other breath."

It sure was exciting too!

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You should read some of his other posts. 98% are about the media slighting Cam/blacks in some way and giving Gabbert/The Golden Calf of Bristol/Dalton the benefit of the doubt.

He thinks this fanbase hates Cam for some reason.

He didn't know what JV football was.

He thought 12 guys played on offense and defense.

Shall I continue?

Nah. No point.

Sports fans are, by nature, too quick to judge successes and failures. I'm probably guilty of it sometimes too but I try not to be. Also try to encourage others to be a little less quick on the draw and a tad less dogmatic and hold fewer grudges, though admittedly sometimes I wonder why I bother :lol:

Just my nature I guess.

Simple as it might be, sometimes the hardest thing to get sports fans to accept is that it really is just a game.

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I kept pretty quite about Newton but did post this last Jan.

"I agree Newton must be able to pass first to make it in the big league but it sure would be exciting seeing the aints, birds, and bucs chasing after him with their tongues hanging out cursing every other breath."

It sure was exciting too!

Yeah it was :lol:

Should be next year too.

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The problem is that guys like Matt Ryan were declared the next big thing before he did anything to prove it. He had a decent rookie year and he was blown up by people in the media because he fit the mold of what they want a good QB to be.

Even after Cam's great rookie performance certain people like Narwocki want to put a slew of caveats by his achievements to diminish them instead of just saying "I screwed the pooch on this one."

Many of Cam's critics went from saying "He is going to struggle because the Panthers have no offensive weapons in the passing game and had no OTAs" to now trying to backtrack but save face by saying "Well Chudzinski is just a genius who made Derek Anderson a Pro Bowler" or "Their coaching staff really used Cam well" or "Wow he has sooooo many weapons no wonder he played well!!" Sometimes QBs can make offensive coordinators and teammates look like geniuses and pro-bowlers.

Anything to try and prevent themselves from giving the praise to Cam Newton who took the worst offense in the NFL and made them a top 5 offense (along with the help of a competent OC).

I don't remember the same caveats for Ryan, Bradford, Big Ben, or Manning in their rookie campaigns.

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