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[AntiBuc]

One thing I noticed several times during the season was how Cam was very good at holding on to the ball when defenders would get to his blind side and hack at his arm or hand while he's about to throw. With most QBs, that'd be a fumble, but I was impressed with his single-handed grip on the ball. The guy must have huge mits.

That said, I looked at some stats on pro-football-reference.com and while there's no official stat for % of plays that results in a fumble for QBs, I put together an unofficial stat sheet. Obviously variables that can't be taken into consideration are the strength of o-line/protection, quick-strike passes, etc. But just to get an idea of about where the Panthers rate, here's the ranking for just QB fumbles as a % of (pass attempts + QB rush attempts). To keep the list manageable, I included only those with at least 200 pass attempts.

1 - D Brees - .15
2 - C Palmer - .58
3 - A Rodgers - .71
4 - M Stafford - .73
5 - M Hasselbeck - .74
6 - C Newton - .78
7 - M Ryan - .83
8 - A Dalton - .90
9 - T Brady - .92
10 - M Schaub - .98
11 - R Fitzpatrick - 1.12
12 - E Manning - 1.28
13 - T Romo - 1.29
14 - J Skelton - 1.32
15 - P Rivers - 1.48
16 - J Freeman - 1.49
17 - K Orton - 1.52
18 - B Roethlisberger - 1.65
19 - R Grossman - 1.67
20 - M Cassell - 1.70
21 - M Sanchez - 1.72
22 - A Smith - 1.81
23 - T Jackson - 1.84
24 - C Ponder - 1.88
25 - C Painter - 1.92
26 - M Vick - 2.00
27 - J Flacco - 2.07
28 - C McCoy - 2.10
29 - J Cutler - 2.11
30 - S Bradford - 2.67
31 - K Kolb - 2.96
32 - B Gabbert - 3.04
33 - T The Golden Calf of Bristol - 3.54
34 - M Moore - 3.69

To give you an idea of the range:

Brees had 1 fumble against 657 pass/21 QB run attempts;
Cam had 5 fumbles against 517 pass/126 QB run attempts;
Matt Moore had 14 fumbles against 347 pass/32 QB run attempts.

This is not part of the stat, but FYI, Brees had 0 fumble recoveries, Cam had 3 and Matt Moore had 3 fumble recoveries. The stat sheet doesn't indicate whether the fumbles recovered were their own or another player's fumble.

All-in-all, a pretty impressive showing for our rookie QB.

[Mother Grabber]

I thought Matt Moore was supposed to be the next Montana

[jtnc]

lol The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[thunderraiden]

I can only think of two times cam lost a fumble in a game. The viking game

[Urrymonster]

I thought Matt Moore was supposed to be the next Montana

Obviously not Montana, but to make this kind of comment after Moore's season is a bit rich. The guy has played really well this year, top 10 easily.

[jtnc]

Obviously not Montana, but to make this kind of comment after Moore's season is a bit rich. The guy has played really well this year, top 10 easily.

17 touchdowns and 15 turnovers. I think not.

[Boner Champ]

Another thing stat where cam > dalton

[Brandon]

Obviously not Montana, but to make this kind of comment after Moore's season is a bit rich. The guy has played really well this year, top 10 easily.

In the AFC maybe.

[CarolinaNCSU]

Obviously not Montana, but to make this kind of comment after Moore's season is a bit rich. The guy has played really well this year, top 10 easily.

In the NFL?...:eek:

[JawnyBlaze]

Matt Moore was top 10 among QBs that shouldn't be starters.

[Munch4455]

Also, correct me if im wrong, but at least a couple of fumbles went down on him(cam), even though they were fumbled snaps.

[JawnyBlaze]

I don't remember any fumbled snaps, but I was deployed for a stretch of 3 games (Lions, Titans, Bucs) and never saw the Titans game. I might have missed it if it happened then.