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#13 cookinwithgas

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 03:49 PM

You don't know what this one falls under - so you call up the old teleprompter gag and leave it at that.

Are you saying that Obama has not inherited any problems? Or is it just that because you personally don't like his methods of solving them, you want to pretend that somehow he created them?

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 03:53 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2...ents/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Obama administration will release four Bush-era memos on terror interrogations Thursday, according to the White House.


CIA officials will not be prosecuted for past waterboarding and other harsh interrogation tactics, Attorney General Eric Holder said.

The memos, written by a top Justice Department lawyer, provided legal guidance to the entire executive branch, including the intelligence agencies, on permissible "enhanced interrogation techniques" that could be used against suspected terrorists taken into custody.

"My judgment on the content of these memos is a matter of record," President Obama said Thursday.

"Enlisting our values in the protection of our people makes us stronger and more secure. A democracy as resilient as ours must reject the false choice between our security and our ideals."

Officials who used the controversial interrogation tactics were in the clear if their actions were consistent with the legal advice from the Justice Department under which they were operating at the time, Holder said.

"It would be unfair to prosecute dedicated men and women working to protect America for conduct that was sanctioned in advance by the Justice Department," he said in a statement.

Obama prohibited the use of so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" such as waterboarding shortly after taking office in January.

Such techniques "undermine our moral authority and do not make us safer," he reiterated Thursday.

While United States must sometimes "protect information that is classified for purposes of national security," he decided to release the memos because he believes "strongly in transparency and accountability" and "exceptional circumstances surround these memos and require their release," Obama said.

"Withholding these memos would only serve to deny facts that have been in the public domain for some time. This could contribute to an inaccurate accounting of the past, and fuel erroneous and inflammatory assumptions about actions taken by the United States."

He added that the officials involved in the questionable interrogations would not be subject to prosecution because the intelligence community must be provided "with the confidence" it needs to do its job.

"This is a time for reflection, not retribution. I respect the strong views and emotions that these issues evoke. We have been through a dark and painful chapter in our history. But at a time of great challenges and disturbing disunity, nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past," Obama concluded.

The president pledged to work to ensure the actions described in the memos "never take place again."


Face up to it - he's changing the policies and not looking for retribution, and he's not into looking backward. He's leading. He is doing what we elected him to do - sorry if you think it sucks, but he (once again) made the right call.

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 03:55 PM

Barry's next PC....

"Last night Michelle said to me "You know Barack, it's not very hard..."

(pause for telemprompter)


"...to admit that you were wrong about Gitmo."

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 03:57 PM

You don't know what this one falls under - so you call up the old teleprompter gag and leave it at that.

Are you saying that Obama has not inherited any problems? Or is it just that because you personally don't like his methods of solving them, you want to pretend that somehow he created them?


Of course he inherited problems. But quit being a whiny little bitch and move forward. Quit looking back and placing blame, no real president does that. Any moron can say "I wanna spend $8oo Trillion, but if it doesn't work, gee, look what I inherited. I want to preface this budget by saying it ain't my fault." Methods of problem solving?????????? Bwhahahahahaha. A god damned third grader could do what he has done. Lets throw $800 trillion dollars at the wall and spend our way back to health!!!!!!

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 04:04 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2...ents/index.html



Face up to it - he's changing the policies and not looking for retribution, and he's not into looking backward. He's leading. He is doing what we elected him to do - sorry if you think it sucks, but he (once again) made the right call.


Then why release anything? He wants to throw his predecessor under the bus and make the US look like thugs. Pointing fingers and looking back, yet again.

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 04:05 PM

"This is a time for reflection, not retribution. I respect the strong views and emotions that these issues evoke. We have been through a dark and painful chapter in our history. But at a time of great challenges and disturbing disunity, nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past," Obama concluded.


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Posted 16 April 2009 - 04:06 PM

So you want them to fix the problem without mentioning the problem anymore?

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 04:06 PM

While United States must sometimes "protect information that is classified for purposes of national security," he decided to release the memos because he believes "strongly in transparency and accountability" and "exceptional circumstances surround these memos and require their release," Obama said.

"Withholding these memos would only serve to deny facts that have been in the public domain for some time. This could contribute to an inaccurate accounting of the past, and fuel erroneous and inflammatory assumptions about actions taken by the United States."




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#21 PanthaSan

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 04:20 PM

Wait, wait.

Does that mean he is not going to let them continue with the time honored practice for gaining valuable intel? :eek:

At least we still have the field phone and clamps to get us by.

Now I gotta remember where I put that battery charger......

#22 Matt Foley

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 04:27 PM

I want to take this opportunity to thank cookinwithgas for his new avatar.

BOUT DAMN TIME

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:47 PM

As Robert Palmer once said, "I didn't mean to turn you on".

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 10:25 PM

reminder:

if a civilian commits a crime after receiving legal counsel that what they're doing is not a crime, they are still held guilty.