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#85 cookinwithgas

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 09:39 AM

more like 2 bazillion!

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 09:54 AM

Your ability to jump from point A to point 137 amazes me.


Your ability to avoid the point is amazing as well. Admit it ... it's a double standard.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 09:55 AM

Did you go to the Pee Wee Herman school of debate?

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 10:00 AM

revolutions in America are a thing of the past, everyone now is too fat and lazy to care.



Not too lazy, but just brainwashed that we can nothing about the situation.

Again.....this.

I have been on a lower taxes soapbox for years and years. I was pissed at the Pubs, and now and I am pissed at the Dems...

So please do not throw me into a box with the others that are mad at Obama being in office, I have my own box already.

The only reason that we won't see a revolution, is we have no way to do it. If taxes were not automatically deducted from payroll every week, for most Americans, we would have a way to fight back....don't pay them.

But since we are a culture that wants others to take care of everything, to handle it for us, etc...we let them get their greasy hands on our money before we do, and now there is no way to stop them.

Cancel the auto deduction, and we have an automatic revolution

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 09:17 PM

I don't mind protesting, I encourage it. But when I see them say "I am not represented because the guy I voted for did not win" and believe that somehow is the same as the colonial days, I have to chuckle. fuging morons.


Understandable... but I think this is much bigger than political parties right now. this has become principle (arguably the opposite of politics... haha) more than anything else. People who are against the intrusion of government into everyday lives are voicing protest at policies being passed that are definitely hyperinflating the government's control over ordinary matters, ordinary people, ordinary lives.

There are plenty of idiots out there, granted, but I don't see any reason to justify calling them fudging idiots unless you're willing to argue Big Government ideology versus Lesser Government ideology... because that's what this all boils down to.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 09:24 PM

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 09:34 PM

:D

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 11:56 PM

Does anyone else find it ironic that as a nation we are now being taxed more than when we had the American Revolution? And during that war, the nation was split down the middle as well.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 12:23 AM

Does anyone else find it ironic that as a nation we are now being taxed more than when we had the American Revolution?


you mean back when we shat in the woods and were lucky to live to 30?

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 07:11 AM

Does anyone else find it ironic that as a nation we are now being taxed more than when we had the American Revolution? And during that war, the nation was split down the middle as well.


Times are completely different now than then. The founding fathers could never imagine things such as ICBM's, planes that could cross the atlantic in a few hours, the requirements for a Navy to defend us on both oceans (and one ship cost us more than the entire continental Navy), the cost of highways and interstates, etc...

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 06:34 PM

Times are completely different now than then. The founding fathers could never imagine things such as ICBM's, planes that could cross the atlantic in a few hours, the requirements for a Navy to defend us on both oceans (and one ship cost us more than the entire continental Navy), the cost of highways and interstates, etc...


So what you're saying is because we have advanced technology, that the government has more right to take what I earn? 40% is 40% no matter when we are talking about.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:09 PM

So what you're saying is because we have advanced technology, that the government has more right to take what I earn? 40% is 40% no matter when we are talking about.



The point was that the government provides a lot more services then it did back then. Some of them have been made necessary by advances in society and technology, others are supported by the majority of the people. Take social security for example. People might complain about the tax, but I don't think that any politician that comes out in support of abolishing it would stand a chance of winning an election.