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#31 Keith Moons Liver

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:22 PM

fug Goodell. He completed the transformation of the NFL from being about the sport of football to being about money. It's now pretty much entirely an entertainment league.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:00 PM

Exactly.

You may not like the way he dishes out punishment and discipline. However, there is absolutely no denying the phenomenal job he has done running the NFL as a business. The expansion of viewership and profitablity under his watch has been outstanding.

Unlike many commishioners in the past, he is a buinessman....and is effectively running the league like the multi billion dollar business that it is.


You're inability to cite a specific example of what he's done to increase league profits is telling.

Goodell is simply rising a wave of popularity which began in the mid nineties.

That wave is so powerful, in fact, that the league survived his own ill conceived plans to destroy it.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:58 PM

I agree with Roddy, Goodell is overpaid and a lousy commish. A lot of people on this board could do his job as well as him.


I disagree with this line of thinking that a lot of us can do what he does or be in his position.

While a lot of people around the world could make some decisions regarding the game, just like real business in the US few of us has what it takes to actually qualify for such a position. For 20+ years Roger worked hard from his start as an intern and worked his way up the ladder impressing his employer and bosses along the way. So yes while some of us may be able to do aspects of his job, how many of us is capable of doing what he did to get to that position. That's what we over look in the US... we want to jump straight to the top and not look at what’s required to get there... IMO getting there is as much of the battle.

No as a commissioner compared to other commissioners how has he done? That can be argued or debated either way. Just depends on how you evaluate success at that position.


I would agree more with White is Roger had just graduated from college, proved very little and was given that kind of money and put in charge. But I respect his climb to get to his position and salary that he receives today.

#34 SmootsDaddy89

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 03:00 PM

Well uh he did rules and stuff to where Drew Brees can throw the ball more and that's awesome it looks awesome on my 55" Vizipoo LED 3D IP GTFO tv thank you Goodell you are so good.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:18 AM

I would agree more with White is Roger had just graduated from college, proved very little and was given that kind of money and put in charge. But I respect his climb to get to his position and salary that he receives today.


lol "his climb."

He went right out of his hoity toity private college into an internship with Pete Rozelle because his dad was a US Senator, then just sorta hung around for 26 years until he had enough swag to be put in control.

The only way he could have worked less was if he was born commissioner. Get your facts straight.

#36 natty

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:37 AM

Goodell has done a good job as far as not completely tanking the league. I'm not going to say how much the guy should get paid but 20 mil does seem excessive.

People can shake their heads all they want about someone making 50 mil for running and catching....you're the ones responsible for his pay.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:24 AM

Goodell has done a good job as far as not completely tanking the league.
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He literally tried to do this btw.

#38 SteveSmithOwns

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 12:05 PM

He literally tried to do this btw.


You're inability to cite a specific example of what he's done to tank the league is telling.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 12:34 PM

You're inability to cite a specific example of what he's done to tank the league is telling.


Im not sure what else you'd call manufacturing a fake crisis and locking out players, unless youre one of those people that still think it was a strike.

Fortunately he and the owners were outmaneuvered and badly misplayed their hand.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:43 PM

Im not sure what else you'd call manufacturing a fake crisis and locking out players, unless youre one of those people that still think it was a strike.

Fortunately he and the owners were outmaneuvered and badly misplayed their hand.



It's business. Any businessman who is looking to maximize profit is going to go as far as possible to get the cheapest price without losing profits, which is what Goodell did. He didn't lose any regular season games, while still able to get some of the things he wanted in the new CBA. What else could he do? Immediately give in to all the player's demands? You might not like what happened, but I highly doubt that Goodell would have let it slip into where football wasn't going to be played for a season. He's too much of a businessman.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:51 PM

lol "all the players demands." I'm not going to bother with someone who's still ignorant of the timeline of events.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:47 PM

People that get paid $20M-$50M need to look at those that make way, way, way less than that. As they are struggling to make ends meet and put food on the table. As those paid in in the millions seem to be set for life. While others that are paid way, way less, are struggling in this rough economic times.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:00 AM

lol "all the players demands." I'm not going to bother with someone who's still ignorant of the timeline of events.


lol, so your not going to answer my question? figures

it boils down to this. Goodell got the most money he could out of the CBA while still playing football. He has to please his 'bosses' which are the NFL owners. And his bosses are the ones who are paying him that much, so they obviously think he deserves it.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:14 AM

lol "his climb."

he went right out of his hoity toity private college into an internship with pete rozelle because his dad was a us senator, then just sorta hung around for 26 years until he had enough swag to be put in control.

The only way he could have worked less was if he was born commissioner. Get your facts straight.


lol

#45 Fiz

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:23 AM

lol, so your not going to answer my question? figures


wait you actually expect me to educate you on the entire 2011 nfl lockout?

i wrote paper bricks on this forum about the lockout. feel free to read any of them.


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