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#1 panther4life

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:19 PM

Marty Hurney took over as the General Manager in 2002. Here is a look at how he's drafted and molded our team through free agency since the departure of George Seifert.Here is what our roster looked like before he took over that year.
2002-
We had just lost 15 games in a row. But we actually had some decent pieces in place.
Offense
Receiving threats- Walls, Moose, and Donald Hayes were our biggest receiving threats. Walls and Moose had already proven themselves so their down years were not on them.

QB- 2nd year QB Weinke threw for nearly 3k yards but only completed 54% of his passes.

RB- The Biakabutuka experiment was coming to an end as he could not stay healthy. 29 Richard Huntley was our biggest threat at this point and we let him go as a free agent.

0-line-Our offensive line was not great. Turnstile Steussie was LT, Jeff Mitchell was our best o-lineman and Donnalley was servicable but 33 years old at RG. RT was Chris Terry and Jamar Nesbitt was our LG. Then of course we had a rookie special team monster named Steve Smith who took the ball in for a TD the first time he touched it.
Defense

Defensive Line- Another experiment was coming to an end and it was called Sean Gilbert. He eventually gave the spot up to Buckner and rookie Kris Jenkins saw some action with 11 starts and accumulating 2 sacks. Our best D-lineman at the time was Rucker who got 9 sacks and played like he actually cared.

Linebackers- Dan Morgan got 11 starts and was 5th on the team in tackles and proved he was going to be a beast. The other lb's sucked bad, I mean real bad,Hannibal Navies and Lester Towns were the names.

Secondary- Doug Evans our high priced free agents contract was up,Our previous years 1st round pick Rashard Anderson failed to earn the other starting spot. Then of course we Minter the proven vet(since 97) by this point and Deon Grant completed our safety tandem.

2002 Offseason

Key Free agency additons. 1.Mark Fields OLB
2.Al wallace(great rotational DE)
3.Terry Cousins cb-serviceable joruneyman CB who ended being our #1 CB
4.Rodney Peete, John Fox's prototype at QB. game manager who can hand the ball of cleanly.
Key loss
Doug Evans left this year
The Draft
2002 1st Rounder-2nd overall- Peppers DE. BPA and completed what would become a dominant D-line.
2nd rounder- Deshaun Foster RB, filled a huge need
3rd rounder-Will Witherspoon OLB, another huge need
4th rounder- Dante Wesley, again another huge need
from their on they just took fliers on bpa taking fasani,Heinrich and couple other non contributors

Now all of a sudden our Defense was deadly. With a front 7 of Rucker,Buckner,Jenkins,Peppers,Will Witherspoon,Dan Morgan, Mark Fields, and safties Mike Minter and Deon Grant behind them wow! Then of course Cousins and Reggie Howard were both just okay(both much better than Munnerlyn as starters btw). And Dante Wesley became the nickelback.

So great defense and still putrid offense. Even Steve Smith, Moose, and Wesley Walls could not overcome Rodney Peete the statue at QB. On top of that our newest RB, Foster got injured and never saw the field that year. Of course the offensive line got no upgrades so it still sucked too outside of Mitchell and Donnalley.

2002's team finished 7-9 and a capable offense away from being a superbowl threat.

2003 Offseason
Key Free Agency additions

1.Jake Delhomme, steve smiths new best friend.
2.Stephen Davis,John Fox's new best friend.
3.Ricky Prohel WR,Mr. clutch.
4.Doug Brzenski G, he was supposed to help the line and become the anchor at LG.


2003 Draft.
Round 1. Jordan Gross- Best lineman in team history
Round 2. Bruce Nelson G. (was supposed to be really good, hip injury killed him)
Round 3.Mike Seidman TE.-not bad, a new blocking threat for Fox's offense who has okay hands if needed
Round 3. B. Ricky Manning Jr. CB- Hurney traded up(collection of late round picks) to grab our new nickel back.
Round 4. Colin Branch S, flier on someone who may someday take Minters spot
Round 5.Kindal Moorhead DT, good depth pick and possible successor to Buckner. (spider bite or something fugged him up 1 year in training camp and never heard from again)
the rest is not worth mentioning

Result-Superbowl bound(damn you Kasay:()

2004 Offseason
Key Free agent signings
1.Brandon Short-good depth at LB, protection against the recently diagnosed Mark Fields who found out he had hodgkins disease before the superbowl run
2.Travis Claridge- another failed attempt at finding a new Guard

1st significant player leaves through free agency- Deon Grant goes to the Jags

2004 Draft
Round 1.Chris Gamble CB- Finally a great #1 Corner
Round 2. Keary Colbert WR- Moose's eventual replacement(well that was the idea at the time anyway)
Round 3.Travelle Wharton OL- Thank goodness the Steussie era is over. That jerk went to the bucs that year in free agency.
Round 4.Drew Carter- A tall skinny speedster at W.R.(its almost as if he knew Moose was going to go chase some money the next year and prepped for it with 2 W.R. picks)
last 2 picks sucked but what do you expect out a 6th and 7th rounder

2004 seasonResult- 7-9 record. Injuries demolished us.(Steve smith went down after 1 game, Stephen Davis,Deshaun Foster and Kris Jenkins were right behind him and the concussions started getting the best of Morgan)

2005 Offseason
Key Free agent signings.
1.Ken Lucas CB- solid corner to pair with Gamble
2.Mike Wahle G-highly touted guard from Green Bay
3.Chris Draft- good insurance for Dan Morgan
4.Marlon Mcree S- hard hitting safety
5.Idrees Bashir S- finally a replacement for Deon Grant?
6.Freddie Davis TE- wow is fox really considering using a TE?

05 losses-
1.Mushin Muhammed- got a big payday from the bears
2. Fields, damn cancer was back

2005 Draft
Round 1. Thomas Davis S.- A Vick spy, could play safety or LB and had the speed to chase Vick around
Round 2.Eric Shelton- thought to be a new powerback to take place of aging and oft injured Stephen Davis. Right idea but terrible pick
Round 3.Evan Mathis OG- lol go look at his other thread
Round 3b.Attayah Ellison pick we acquired from seattle in exchange for trading down 9 spots in the 2nd where we took Shelton, seatle got Lofa Tatupu
Round 4- Stefan Lefors QB- have no idea why, project i guess but that one
failed
Round 5-Adam Seward- poor mans Dan Connor
Round 5b.(compensatory pick)Hangman G- you should know about him

2005 season results
11-5 and deep playoff run only to lose the NFC championship to seattle

2006 Offseason
Key free agent signings
1.Kemo DT- fat space eating machine
2.Keyshawn Johnson-replacemnet for Moose
2.Damione Lewis DT- decent addition to the line
3.Justin Hartwig C- new starter to take Kevin Mitchells place

2006 players lost
1.Will witherspoon- got a stupid deal to play MLB in ST Louis
2.Ricky Manning Jr.-Chicago wanted him more than we did
3.Dante Wesley- see above
4.Marlon Mcree- San Diego snatched him up

2006 Draft
1.
1.Deangelo Williams RB- nice choice
2.Richard Marshall CB-replacement nickel and possible # 2 down the road
3. James Anderson-replacement for the departed Witherspoon
the rest sucked and no significant impact

2006 season result 8-8

2007 offseason
Key signings
none, well okay we did sign David Carr
Key loss
1.Keyshawn Johnson
2.Chris Draft

2007 Draft
Round 1.Jon Beason- great pick in the 1st again
Round 2. Dwayne Jarret- terrible pick in the 2nd again
Round 2b.Ryan Kaili- part of the beason trade down deal with the jets
Round 3. Charles Johnson- Awesome value pick
rest is forgettable

2007 season Tommy Jone epidemic hits the huddleand Kris Jenkins blows the hell up and demands trade.
season result 7-9

2008 offseason
Key free agency signings
1.Keydrick Vincent G- veteran mauler
2.Tyler Brayton- good additon to the d-line
3.D.J Hackett- well he sucked but hurney tried
about 5 others who were cheap and did not pan out

Key free agent losses
Not that they were missed but the Colbert and Drew Carter experiments ended

2008 Draft
Round 1. Jonathan Stewart
Round 1B. Jeff Otah- if only he could stay healthy
Round 3. Charles Godfrey
Round 3b. (for Jenkins from Jets) Dan Connor
Round 5. Gary Barnidge
Round 6. Nick Hayden DT
Round 7. Hilee Taylor DE
Round 7B. Geoff Schwartz G
Round 7c.Mackenzy Bernadeau G

2008 Results- were back! 12-4, then Jake Melts down against AZ.

2009 Offseason
quiet offseason, but we do give Jake a big deal to get his confidence back and franchise Peppers for the last time
Hangman goes to Buffalo

2009 Draft Hurneys worst draft ever
Rund 1. Traded for Otah
Round 2.(goodbye next years first)Everette Brown-panic pick in anticipation of losing Peppers next year
Round 2. Sherrod Martin
Round 3.Corey Irvin DT
Round 4.Mike Goodson
Round 4B.Tony Fiammeta (let the zod hype machine begin)
Round 5.Duke Robinson-well he fell like hell why not
Round 7. Captain Munnerlyn

2009 Season results 7-9 (oh yay were finally going to fire fox, okay well not yet got to prepare for the lockout now)

#2 panther4life

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:20 PM

2010 Offseason
Roster purge continues and Peppers leaves for Chicago
2010 Draft
1.gave it away for Everette Brown
2.Jimmy Clausen- I foolishly rejoiced
3.Brandon Lafell- so far so good
3b.Armanti Edwards- why Hurney WHY??
4.Eric Norwood- meh
6.Greg Hardy-not sold yet, his run d is very bad
6b. Gettis- hopefully he'll recover fully and contribute next year
7. Pugh
couple more that are not in the picture anymore

Roster purge continues and Peppers leaves for Chicago
2010 Season result 2-14
John Fox says f.u Richardson and we get the last laugh because we end up with the # 1 pick and Cam Newton

2011
Fox gets canned(long overdue)
Rivera,Chud, and Mcdermott come aboard-Very happy, and relieved we did not seriouslt consider Greg Manusky

Key offseason signings
1.Ron Edwards-tears his pectormal muscle and we never see him
2.Olindo Mare- I wanted to hurt the guy as I was leaving the stadium after the Minnesota loss
3.Legadu Naane-
4.We keep every damn free agent we were worried about losing
5.Early in the season we sign Applewhite

2011 Draft Results
1.Cam Newton- Thank you very much
2.Armanti, :mad:
3.Mcclain
3b.Fua
4.Hogan
5.Pilares
couple others
7.Lee Ziemba

2011 result 6-10, but we are back on track and we finally have a franchise QB!!!

2012 TBD...

EDIT:meant to post this in the main forum, mod feel free/please to move it unless you feel like belongs in here.

Edited by panther4life, 19 February 2012 - 08:36 PM.


#3 Jim Harbaugh

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:59 PM

Nicely done.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:26 PM

Hurney takes way to much blame for a small handful of mistakes (trades for Everette Brown and Armanti Edwards, Eric Shelton over Frank Gore, etc), but I'd be willing to bet that Hurney has a better draft track record than most current GM's. There's also no one else I would want making our first round selection than Hurney either.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:55 PM

Hope we find gold this year, this might be the last time in a long while, that we get a top ten pick, unless we trade up.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:05 AM

Read the OP posts, and can't tell whether he is for or against Hurney.

Even if i could, the OP left out a lot of role players, how little spending money was available, the owner, and Gm's plans and intentions on how to build a team capable of winning championships.

I also know every gm makes mistakes. I can't think of one that is perfect. The relationship between owner, gm, and coach, is a very important relationship, that many teams haven't figured out yet.

Maybe i'll check back later to see if there has been any clarification.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:18 AM

Read the OP posts, and can't tell whether he is for or against Hurney.

Even if i could, the OP left out a lot of role players, how little spending money was available, the owner, and Gm's plans and intentions on how to build a team capable of winning championships.

I also know every gm makes mistakes. I can't think of one that is perfect. The relationship between owner, gm, and coach, is a very important relationship, that many teams haven't figured out yet.

Maybe i'll check back later to see if there has been any clarification.



I love Hurney and dude I was not going to research cap room each year and mention every single role player like Nick Hayden. Feel free to contribute any info you feel I omitted. The thread was already so long that it took 2 post. This isn't paid content or anything so don't complain.

This was a factual piece not an opinion piece that's why there was no slant on why I do or do not like him. Just be grateful for the research, even if you have some personal reason for not liking me. When people bash others or make stupid complaints it discourages others from doing similar type of post that may be better than mine or more informative.

Edited by panther4life, 20 February 2012 - 12:22 AM.


#8 Ivan The Awesome

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:19 AM

Hurney has made some stupid, stupid moves. Yet he's made some extremely wise ones. He's like Jake Delhomme but in GM form.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:19 AM

And thank you to everyone for the pie.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:54 AM

Read the OP posts, and can't tell whether he is for or against Hurney.

Even if i could, the OP left out a lot of role players, how little spending money was available, the owner, and Gm's plans and intentions on how to build a team capable of winning championships.

I also know every gm makes mistakes. I can't think of one that is perfect. The relationship between owner, gm, and coach, is a very important relationship, that many teams haven't figured out yet.

Maybe i'll check back later to see if there has been any clarification.



I love Hurney and dude I was not going to research cap room each year and mention every single role player like Nick Hayden. Feel free to contribute any info you feel I omitted. The thread was already so long that it took 2 post. This isn't paid content or anything so don't complain.

This was a factual piece not an opinion piece that's why there was no slant on why I do or do not like him. Just be grateful for the research, even if you have some personal reason for not liking me. When people bash others or make stupid complaints it discourages others from doing similar type of post that may be better than mine or more informative.

have nothing against ya.
Didn't realize what your intentions were...which is why i asked for clarification. ;)

Thanks for clarifying. With that known, ya did a good job throwing together the posts.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:26 PM

Hurney has made some stupid, stupid moves. Yet he's made some extremely wise ones. He's like Jake Delhomme but in GM form.


That is an excellent analogy. Both leave something to be desired but stick because every once in a while they hit one out of the ballpark (mixing metaphors aside).

#12 Frash Brastard

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 04:11 PM

Lol pantherclaw needed to figure out if the poster was for or against hurney so he'd know whether or not to rip into him what a fuging robot


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