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#1 Delhommey

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:17 PM



Warning: Will go over the heads of a fair amount of conservatives.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:25 PM



#3 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:26 PM

JFK was one of the 1%, therefore we shouldn't listen to him. :)

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:45 PM

That was pretty cool when he said "I need religion in my life like I need a hole in the head."

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:05 PM

It's amazing how much America has changed since that speech. I don't see it as progress but regression. I don't think any man who gave that speech today would stand a chance to win election as President. Religion seems to have become more extreme the last 30-40 years and much more political. Despite the fact that the % of Americans that are religious has decreased.


Great speech btw.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:25 PM

It's amazing how much America has changed since that speech. I don't see it as progress but regression. I don't think any man who gave that speech today would stand a chance to win election as President. Religion seems to have become more extreme the last 30-40 years and much more political. Despite the fact that the % of Americans that are religious has decreased.


Great speech btw.


I doubt its really become that much more extreme. Only our perception has changed, primarily because of 24x7 news.

But Kennedy was right, we should be far more worried about the commies. :)

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:31 PM

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:42 PM

It's amazing how much America has changed since that speech. I don't see it as progress but regression. I don't think any man who gave that speech today would stand a chance to win election as President. Religion seems to have become more extreme the last 30-40 years and much more political. Despite the fact that the % of Americans that are religious has decreased.


Great speech btw.


I doubt its really become that much more extreme. Only our perception has changed, primarily because of 24x7 news.

But Kennedy was right, we should be far more worried about the commies. :)


Maybe, I think the charismatic movement in the 70 s had an effect. So you think a president can say that now and still win an election?

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:31 PM

Obama said many similar things and he won.

I am a big believer in the separation of church and state. I am a big believer in our constitutional structure.”

“I think there is an enormous danger on the part of public figures to rationalize or justify their actions by claiming God’s mandate. I don’t think it’s healthy for public figures to wear religion on their sleeve as a means to insulate themselves from criticism, or dialogue with people who disagree with them.”


Also, I wonder if Kennedy would have said all that if he knew it might be played thousands of times across america on youtube, on various cable shows, and posted on internet message boards.

Edited by Davidson Deac II, 28 February 2012 - 08:59 PM.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:14 PM

Didn't know he said that. Not as strong of language imo but still I'm surprised. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:38 PM

Why he's a leader.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:26 PM

politicians saying what a group WANTS to hear? say it ain't so

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:05 AM

Why he's a Christian/Muslim/agnostic, depending on who he's talking to.


Fixed

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:45 AM

politicians saying what a group WANTS to hear? say it ain't so


lol the video is entirely the opposite of that.

He's telling an auditorium of Texas ministers that he believes in a clear separation of church and state.

#15 SamTheRam

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:49 AM

Obama believes in a clear separation of the church and the 57 states


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