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Kid is shot, killed by neighborhood association captain

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In the 911 call he said 'they always get away' and the dispatcher asked if he following him, he said yes. Right then and there even the dispatcher said 'We don't need you do to do that'

Why was did go after the boy? How can you claim self defense if you are the one doing the chasing?

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He chased after a kid running from him and then it was self defense. Rotsa Ruck there Mad.

And of course you KNOW exactly what happened when he approached the 17 yo guy. You DON"T. You have no idea if the kid initiated the assault.....fact is that the guy had his ass kicked and was bleeding.

My point is that I don't know what happened.....and YOU don't know what happened.

But, as usual.....you subsitute your opinion/biases/thoughts as FACT.

Let the evidence play out in a court of law....assuming that it gets past a grand jury. I assume it will, because you can indict a ham sandwich.

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There are only a few FACTS that we actually know about this situation:

1. Zimmerman followed the kid

2. The kid was on the phone with his girlfriend (we don't know what she heard)

3. There was an assault/altercation

4. Zimmerman had a gun

5. The kid was shot and killed

Outside of these items, everything that you keep saying is NOTHING more than you opinion on what happened....based on your own biases.

We don't know what was said....we don't know what happened when the two came together....we don't know who started the assault....we don't know if it was self defense.

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There are only a few FACTS that we actually know about this situation:

1. Zimmerman followed the kid

2. The kid was on the phone with his girlfriend (we don't know what she heard)

3. There was an assault/altercation

4. Zimmerman had a gun and the kid had a BAG OF fuging SKITTLES

5. The kid was shot and killed

Outside of these items, everything that you keep saying is NOTHING more than you opinion on what happened....based on your own biases.

We don't know what was said....we don't know what happened when the two came together....we don't know who started the assault....we don't know if it was self defense.

you missed something.

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There are no "phone records". The only thing that is a fact is that she was on the phone with him. What she says she heard is from a person with a bias and a vested interest in defending her boyfriend.

It is not evidence.

However, there are enough questions that this should go to a grand jury. let the actual evidence be brought forward and a jury decided what this was.

so are you now downplaying what came out the mouth of the last person to actually talk to him? How is that not evidence? And how the hell do you not know that even the police department isn't biased??? They're CHANGING WITNESS TESTIMONIES ON THE DAMN SPOT!!! And you're saying what the girlfriend said is biased?

And what constitutes "evidence" in this case since phone records don't mean anything to you? You want Zimmerman to walk up to you yourself and tell you he did it? You want Martin to rise from the dead and say what happened?

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If this scenario was a white kid getting shot in the ghetto, sylvianlight, Arsen, g5, etc. would all be up in arms about how this injustice was somehow Obama's fault and would want that ghetto to be bombed because Fox News said so...

The use of deadly force is a finite decision, and one that should be made as a last line of defense when you feel your life is endangered... NOT when you're putting yourself into a situation that you have no business being in in the first place...

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so are you now downplaying what came out the mouth of the last person to actually talk to him? How is that not evidence? And how the hell do you not know that even the police department isn't biased??? They're CHANGING WITNESS TESTIMONIES ON THE DAMN SPOT!!! And you're saying what the girlfriend said is biased?

And what constitutes "evidence" in this case since phone records don't mean anything to you? You want Zimmerman to walk up to you yourself and tell you he did it? You want Martin to rise from the dead and say what happened?

My point is that ALL you know is that he was on the phone with her. You DO NOT know what she heard.

As I said, there appears to be enough evidence to warrant an investigation and trial. There, the evidence will be presented in a court of law....rather than people making up their minds about what ACTUALY happened through reading a couple of newspaper articles.

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If this scenario was a white kid getting shot in the ghetto, sylvianlight, Arsen, g5, etc. would all be up in arms about how this injustice was somehow Obama's fault and would want that ghetto to be bombed because Fox News said so...

The use of deadly force is a finite decision, and one that should be made as a last line of defense when you feel your life is endangered... NOT when you're putting yourself into a situation that you have no business being in in the first place...

F you Azazel...don't even know who you are.

For the record, I was simply reserving judgement until more facts come out. In this particular case, it's looking more and more likely that Zimmerman overstepped his bounds. The question now is if the new Florida law protects him in this instance.

As I'd mentioned earlier, there was a similar situation where a man witnessed a mugging and he followed the dude so he could put the police right on him. The perp pulled a weapon and the following man shot him and killed him. No charges were brought up. In THIS instance, there is no evidence of the kid doing anything that warranted being followed. There was no need for 911 to be called in the first place. Zimmerman overstepped his bounds IMHO and should suffer the consequences of making a very very poor decision.

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okay okay, maybe I shouldn't have included you in that list thus far in the thread... but your past actions make you an easy target in such cases as this...

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did this kid not have the right to be left the fug alone?

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did this kid not have the right to be left the fug alone?

no no he had every right to see what that black kid was up to!

/apologists

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